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20 years 8 months ago #8532 by tvanflandern
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by north</i>
<br />just wondering if you have gott'n any results from the satellites from Lageos I and VLBI(from your book).<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">The latest on those data sets is in PG. I have nothing newer than that yet.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">from what i have read so far(up to pg.130)seems reasonable. but what does scale include,meaning is there life?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">The axiom that everything is fundamentally the same at all scales, differing only in detail, means yes, there is life at all scales. -|Tom|-

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20 years 8 months ago #8533 by north
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by tvanflandern</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by north</i>
<br />just wondering if you have gott'n any results from the satellites from Lageos I and VLBI(from your book).<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">The latest on those data sets is in PG. I have nothing newer than that yet.
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ANS: i"ll have to read more of Pushing Gravity.

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from what i have read so far(up to pg.130)seems reasonable. but what does scale include,meaning is there life?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">The axiom that everything is fundamentally the same at all scales, differing only in detail, means yes, there is life at all scales. -|Tom|-
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ANS: our scale universe life forms? if so interesting. does this imply a relative scale?

so that a kilometer is a kilometer is a kilometer? so that as we diminish in scale so does space,relatively speaking?



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20 years 8 months ago #8536 by tvanflandern
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by north</i>
<br />does this imply a relative scale? so that a kilometer is a kilometer is a kilometer? so that as we diminish in scale so does space, relatively speaking?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">A kilometer is 1000 times the length of the standard meter in Paris. It might have counterpart standard units at other scales, but they could bever be the same as a "kilometer".

As one examines ever smaller or larger scales, things will seem to be about the same as at our scale. A proton might be a star in the quantum world, an electron might be a planet, and living entities might roam certain such planets under just the right conditions.

These analogies should not be taken too literally. But one could probably find a scale where things really did look similar to the kinds of things we see in the universe around us. -|Tom|-

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20 years 8 months ago #8537 by north
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so could we say that,this is a case of relativity?

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20 years 8 months ago #9320 by tvanflandern
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by north</i>
<br />so could we say that,this is a case of relativity?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Yes. All five dimensions are relative, not just space and time. -|Tom|-

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20 years 8 months ago #8594 by EBTX
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Yes. All five dimensions are relative, not just space and time. -|Tom|-<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Wouldn't it be better to say that in any N dimensional manifold N-1 dimensions are relative? We have to hold one as a "standard of measure" to say anything objective about the others. An objective statement is a comparison and any reasonable comparison is impossible till an "absolute" is at least arbitrarily defined.

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