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10 years 7 months ago #22337
by Zip Monster
Replied by Zip Monster on topic Reply from George
Hi rd, what "papers" did you and your brother Neil write?
Malcolm, have you read this paper: "Avian Formation on a South-Facing Slope along the Northwest Rim of the Argyre Basin"?
Link: spsr.utsi.edu/articles/JSE253Saunders.pdf
Zip Monster
Malcolm, have you read this paper: "Avian Formation on a South-Facing Slope along the Northwest Rim of the Argyre Basin"?
Link: spsr.utsi.edu/articles/JSE253Saunders.pdf
Zip Monster
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10 years 7 months ago #22253
by rderosa
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Zip Monster</i>
<br />Hi rd, what "papers" did you and your brother Neil write?
Zip Monster
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Zip, we did three that I'm sure of, and I think maybe a fourth one that I had a minimal input to. The three I'm sure of are: "T or E", "Nefertiti's Family" and one on "The Cydonia Face".
"The Cydonia Face" and "T or E" were published in the Bulletin, and I seem to remember that "Nefertiti's Family" also was.
I'm not sure what if any are still available as back copies from MetaResearch. That would be a question for Larry. And unfortunately, I don't have access to them right now.
A number of things happened since we wrote them: I packed up a house and put it in storage, and there's still a desktop of mine that has all the stuff I was working on up until 2007. That's why I haven't been able to restore the "Nefertiti's Family" thread. The only place those images are is on that computer.
I believe I may have some of that on a USB drive here with me, but I'd have to look for it. We bought a new house last year, and I still have a ton of boxes on shelves in the garage. I just found an external drive that I know has stuff from the laptop I was using at that time, but I can't find the power cord for it. If I find it, I should have at least "T or E" and "The Cydonia Face".
A couple of years ago, Neil's son sent me a whole bunch of CDs where he copied everything from Neil's computer. But when I started looking through them, it was such a hodge-podge of stuff, because his son didn't really know what he was looking for and just copied everything. Not to mention it was loaded with viruses. I haven't looked at them since.
I'll spend some time looking for the power cord for the Nextar Zip drive. That might be my best bet.
rd
<br />Hi rd, what "papers" did you and your brother Neil write?
Zip Monster
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Zip, we did three that I'm sure of, and I think maybe a fourth one that I had a minimal input to. The three I'm sure of are: "T or E", "Nefertiti's Family" and one on "The Cydonia Face".
"The Cydonia Face" and "T or E" were published in the Bulletin, and I seem to remember that "Nefertiti's Family" also was.
I'm not sure what if any are still available as back copies from MetaResearch. That would be a question for Larry. And unfortunately, I don't have access to them right now.
A number of things happened since we wrote them: I packed up a house and put it in storage, and there's still a desktop of mine that has all the stuff I was working on up until 2007. That's why I haven't been able to restore the "Nefertiti's Family" thread. The only place those images are is on that computer.
I believe I may have some of that on a USB drive here with me, but I'd have to look for it. We bought a new house last year, and I still have a ton of boxes on shelves in the garage. I just found an external drive that I know has stuff from the laptop I was using at that time, but I can't find the power cord for it. If I find it, I should have at least "T or E" and "The Cydonia Face".
A couple of years ago, Neil's son sent me a whole bunch of CDs where he copied everything from Neil's computer. But when I started looking through them, it was such a hodge-podge of stuff, because his son didn't really know what he was looking for and just copied everything. Not to mention it was loaded with viruses. I haven't looked at them since.
I'll spend some time looking for the power cord for the Nextar Zip drive. That might be my best bet.
rd
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10 years 7 months ago #22285
by rderosa
Replied by rderosa on topic Reply from Richard DeRosa
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Marsevidence01</i>
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Is there anyway I could get a copy of your papers here?
I believe you have my email address.
Cheers,
Malcolm Scott
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Malcolm, the Store only shows the one on the Cydonia Face (from 2001).
www.metaresearch.org/publications/bulletin/index.asp#VOL15
If you will read my response to Zip, you'll see my problem in locating them right now. But I have some idea of where I might find all three. If I do I will certainly email you copies.
rd
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Is there anyway I could get a copy of your papers here?
I believe you have my email address.
Cheers,
Malcolm Scott
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Malcolm, the Store only shows the one on the Cydonia Face (from 2001).
www.metaresearch.org/publications/bulletin/index.asp#VOL15
If you will read my response to Zip, you'll see my problem in locating them right now. But I have some idea of where I might find all three. If I do I will certainly email you copies.
rd
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10 years 7 months ago #22254
by Marsevidence01
Replied by Marsevidence01 on topic Reply from Malcolm Scott
Malcolm, have you read this paper: "Avian Formation on a South-Facing Slope along the Northwest Rim of the Argyre Basin"?
Link: spsr.utsi.edu/articles/JSE253Saunders.pdf
Zip Monster
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Yes I did and was impressed of course. The evidence shows the typical of what I have noticed quite frequently in so many images. Birds especially with large bills are quite common but none as pronounced as M14-02185. Also many instances of Dogs and Cats.
What took my interest here was the area directly north of the parrots head, the so called cellular structures. So I decided to take a closer look.
If I may make so bold, I think this may be an excellent place to introduce a technique I have been using for some time now as this may help others to see greater detail albeit a little unscientific. It is what I refer to as "seeing through the blur". Although you may already know this approach so forgive me if I am reinventing the wheel here.
Where we need to focus is as I said, directly north of the parrot's head (and I'm sure this has been analized closely over the years) so let's get an idea of scale here as this is crucial to the process.
When we look over these images, it is tempting to pass over the fine details. So in order to capture this, great patience is needed in slowing down one's mind and to try and place oneself "into" the area at ground level so to speak. This is most important. If this step is not achieved, then the process will not be attained. In order to help with this step, I have posted an image of the south east corner of Central Park just where the Plaza Hotel is located with a comparable scale of the cellular structures. The scale is correct to within 5%.
So we can see cars and just barely see the tiny specks of people in the street.
Now as you steady your sight in the Mars image, move your eye very slowly and try to place yourself into the image in the size of the people which you see in the New York image. Before to long, you will start to see the structures and geometric design scattered throughout the landscape. This may take a while but once you are there, you will begin to <u>see through the blur</u> and the blur will start to dissipate. The more you look at one spot moving slowly from point to point, the more you will see the three dimensionality of the structures and their contrived design. As a tip, try to spot areas where a structure is causing a shadow to occur, this "kicks in" the 3D process.
There is much to see here, a veritable city of formations with center points and possible technology. Patience is the key.
I have also posted a second image of the same area but further to the east as there are some incredible structures and center points in the image as well.
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Image below is just to the east of above.
<b>Tip:</b> If you are using Windows 7/8 using the "Magnify" tool for zooming into the posted Meta Research images is quite effective.
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Malcolm Scott
Link: spsr.utsi.edu/articles/JSE253Saunders.pdf
Zip Monster
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Yes I did and was impressed of course. The evidence shows the typical of what I have noticed quite frequently in so many images. Birds especially with large bills are quite common but none as pronounced as M14-02185. Also many instances of Dogs and Cats.
What took my interest here was the area directly north of the parrots head, the so called cellular structures. So I decided to take a closer look.
If I may make so bold, I think this may be an excellent place to introduce a technique I have been using for some time now as this may help others to see greater detail albeit a little unscientific. It is what I refer to as "seeing through the blur". Although you may already know this approach so forgive me if I am reinventing the wheel here.
Where we need to focus is as I said, directly north of the parrot's head (and I'm sure this has been analized closely over the years) so let's get an idea of scale here as this is crucial to the process.
When we look over these images, it is tempting to pass over the fine details. So in order to capture this, great patience is needed in slowing down one's mind and to try and place oneself "into" the area at ground level so to speak. This is most important. If this step is not achieved, then the process will not be attained. In order to help with this step, I have posted an image of the south east corner of Central Park just where the Plaza Hotel is located with a comparable scale of the cellular structures. The scale is correct to within 5%.
So we can see cars and just barely see the tiny specks of people in the street.
Now as you steady your sight in the Mars image, move your eye very slowly and try to place yourself into the image in the size of the people which you see in the New York image. Before to long, you will start to see the structures and geometric design scattered throughout the landscape. This may take a while but once you are there, you will begin to <u>see through the blur</u> and the blur will start to dissipate. The more you look at one spot moving slowly from point to point, the more you will see the three dimensionality of the structures and their contrived design. As a tip, try to spot areas where a structure is causing a shadow to occur, this "kicks in" the 3D process.
There is much to see here, a veritable city of formations with center points and possible technology. Patience is the key.
I have also posted a second image of the same area but further to the east as there are some incredible structures and center points in the image as well.
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Image below is just to the east of above.
<b>Tip:</b> If you are using Windows 7/8 using the "Magnify" tool for zooming into the posted Meta Research images is quite effective.
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10 years 7 months ago #22622
by Marsevidence01
Replied by Marsevidence01 on topic Reply from Malcolm Scott
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Marsevidence01</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by rderosa</i>
<br />I see the dog in the 2D image. The 3D image appears to falsify it. The dismembered head is certainly falsified.
rd
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This image of a retrieving dog with "its owner's" prey in it's mouth, to me, has some profound implications. Again, this line of evaluation is propagating the artificial hypothesis but for argument's sake, the message has great meaning <i>if</i> the creator(s) needed to convey a "cannonball of morality". The depth of the principle is captivating when the essentials of the image are considered.
I think the cleverness of the details should also be applauded. Just "clear" enough in the right amount to be seen from above that draws the picture to an almost unfathomable level of impressionism.
Malcolm Scott
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Malcolm Scott
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by rderosa</i>
<br />I see the dog in the 2D image. The 3D image appears to falsify it. The dismembered head is certainly falsified.
rd
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
This image of a retrieving dog with "its owner's" prey in it's mouth, to me, has some profound implications. Again, this line of evaluation is propagating the artificial hypothesis but for argument's sake, the message has great meaning <i>if</i> the creator(s) needed to convey a "cannonball of morality". The depth of the principle is captivating when the essentials of the image are considered.
I think the cleverness of the details should also be applauded. Just "clear" enough in the right amount to be seen from above that draws the picture to an almost unfathomable level of impressionism.
Malcolm Scott
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10 years 7 months ago #22289
by rderosa
Replied by rderosa on topic Reply from Richard DeRosa
Parrotopia has always been one of the most intriguing sites on Mars. In my opinion, maybe even THE most intriguing site.
It's a shame the HiRise people have thus far refused to image Keith Laney's suggestion 59392:
www.uahirise.org/hiwish/view/59392
We may find ourselves in similar situation as with the Road Runner where we can't tell if the Parrot and/or The Guardian are artificial, but I believe the "City" would be clear one way or the other.
rd
It's a shame the HiRise people have thus far refused to image Keith Laney's suggestion 59392:
www.uahirise.org/hiwish/view/59392
We may find ourselves in similar situation as with the Road Runner where we can't tell if the Parrot and/or The Guardian are artificial, but I believe the "City" would be clear one way or the other.
rd
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