New image of the Cydonia Face 4-13-06

Rd,

Sorry about that, I should have noticed your courteous dialog.

As for the image I posted above - I have not “toyed with them” as you say you have done. I have not performed any exotic enhancement techniques of any kind and I have not added anything. The only adjustments that were made to the 1998 (SP-22003) JPL image of the Face (I did not use the MSSS image) was a little tonal adjustment and a contrast reversal (Paint Shop pro 7). The image was also sized down to create perspective. If you haven’t noticed, the JPL image appears to be published in a negative (similar to the way NASA just posted the new image of the Face upside down), so I just performed a negative reversal to the crop.

You must also realize that the (SP-22003) 1998 image of the Face is the only oblique angle to capture the Humanoid side of the structure (with the Feline side being foreshortened), all proceeding images (to date) capture the Feline side with the Humanoid side foreshortened. Also please note that the comparison of the Humanoid/First Lord image posted above is about 7 years old and a bit degraded so your results should be even better. Try duplication these simple steps and you’ll notice the details pop right up. All the facial features and iconographic elements should be readily seen without the aid of mirroring.

The Feline image (MOC E03-00824) is from 2001 NASA/JPL archives. All that was done here (besides mirroring) was a little tonal adjustment (light/dark) that’s it.

Please try and duplicate these steps and post them here for comparison.

Zip Monster

ZM,

Can You post your evidence, not tell us but <u><b>Show</b></u> us. Specifically I'm very curious about the little faces in the center, of both the so-called humanoid and so-called feline halfs. Where did they come from. I have never seen them before and I don't think they exist. If you can <u><b>show</b></u> me the raw data images and how you derived the little faces I will stand corrected.

I repeat, I don't think they exist, even as half-parts of your imaginary mirror images.

Neil

Neil,

nothing was done to either the feline or Humanoid image that I didn't mention. You don't need me to post the raw data. I used NASA's own images.

As for the little "faces" in the center of each mirrored image...what little faces? You SHOW me what your talking about.

Zip Monster

The onus is on you. You posted the outragious images; now show us how you derived them. I don't think you can.

Neil

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Zip Monster</i>
<br />You don't need me to post the raw data. I used NASA's own images.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">You know Zip, I have to agree with Neil that you should be able to present your case, by showing the steps that you used to arrive at the images you posted. I also have Paint Shop Pro (ver X), so you could easily just start with the raw data, crop it, and go through various steps, then post the steps and the interim images, and then I'll attempt to do the same thing.

As a matter of fact, if you tell me the exact menu items you used, it would be a snap for me to duplicate it. As it stands, if I tried to duplicate it, I wouldn't know where to begin. I just don't see how you arrived at those images, based on all the stuff I've done. It has nothing to do with me "toyin'" with images, it's just a matter of you explaining what you did. That's what I would do, if I posted those images.

rd

Neil and rd,

OK guys, keep in mind that I’m not an image specialist. I’m just a sculptor. So, please bear with me. The following process will guide you step by step - and provide you with the source image and links to produce a comparable image of the Humanoid side of the Face on Mars.

Here are my processing notes:

1.) The source image I used was the inverted version of SP-22003 that was
processed by Malin Space Science Systems Figure 1.
Link: [url] www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/4_6_98_face_release/ [/url]




Figure 1

2.) To further rectify a vertical viewing angle I used the tools provided by Paint Shop Pro 7. In the Tool Bar under “Effects” I utilized the “Skew” function in the “Geometric Effects” section. The Skew was set at 17% Horizontal.

3.) Then in the Tool Bar, under “Image” I rotated the image 15% to the Right.

4.) Using the Tool Bar, I went into “Effects” and utilized the “Perspective - Horizontal” tool in the “Geometric Effects” section. The horizontal perspective was set at 52%. The results are presented in Figure 2.




Figure 2

Note all facial features are readily seen with out the aid of mirroring. Notice the Tri-leaf Emblem, the Eye, the Flanged Headdress, The Decorative Nose Ornamentation including the Teardrop feature, the Tooth with a circular Dot in the center, the Mouth and Jaw.

5.) The image was then cropped and mirrored (Figure 4a) along the demarcation line notated in Figure 3. The Humanoid mask is on the Left side of the demarcation line.



Figure 3

6.) Below is a comparison of The Cydonia Institute's version of the 1998 Humanoid side of the face and my current attempt to duplicate it.



Figure 4

a.) Left: My cureent version
b.) Right: The Cydonia Institute’s 1998 version

Now, I'd like to see your attempt.


Zip Monster