My pareidolia knows no bounds.

Not odd in the least to attempt to discredit the word pareidolia. Most people take things at face value. There is more value in the pareidolic face. The pareidolic face that is not bound up the way matter is bound up. i care not the least about martian art or earthly art- they are created by beings in a material form with all the foibles/ ego/ ideas etc. even Van Gogh. Look with your own eyes at the nearly forbidden? pareidolia and compare it to art/ philosophy/ music or any other man contrived attempt to be "artistic" (an idea). Pareidolia is beyond ideas/ thought/ work/. The human face is a roadmap of how form followed function for 15 billion years. The pareidolic face is the face of the eternal other. The scape goat. beyondpareidolia.shutterfly.com/1458
Invert this photo and see the so called Hegalian process (stolen from pareidolia like everything else just about) beyondpareidolia.shutterfly.com/1230 looks to me like a Native American with a 5 pointed star on his right shoulder.

There were pareidolic shadows on earth before there was man. Maybe man came here to see and learn something from them other than might is right.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Marsevidence01</i>
<br />In my opinion (that's always a good disclaimer), you are spending way too much time "talking" (as in writing) and way too little time "proving."rd
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I write and you respond. You are always free not to respond. Malcolm Scott<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">


No, you missed my point. Or maybe I didn't quite make that clear enough.

What I'm saying is, if your goal is to convince others of your "proof", and by all means it seems that it is since you even went so far as to try and ban a word you claim is getting in the way of you successfully drawing in others into the Anomaly Hunt, then you might have a better chance achieving that goal (of convincing others) if you spent less time talking and more time proving.

Just seems logical to me, in general, and specifically to the people here, it's very accurate. You're never going to convince us by <b>telling us what you see, and how excited it made you, and how convinced you are, and why the notion of "pareidolia" is getting in the way, etc. etc.</b>

The only thing that's ever going to convince anyone is actual proof. That's why I would think it makes more sense to concentrate on that, and not so much on debate.

rd

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by pareidoliac</i>
<br />Not odd in the least to attempt to discredit the word pareidolia. Most people take things at face value. There is more value in the pareidolic face. The pareidolic face that is not bound up the way matter is bound up. i care not the least about martian art or earthly art- they are created by beings in a material form with all the foibles/ ego/ ideas etc. even Van Gogh. Look with your own eyes at the nearly forbidden? pareidolia and compare it to art/ philosophy/ music or any other man contrived attempt to be "artistic" (an idea). Pareidolia is beyond ideas/ thought/ work/. The human face is a roadmap of how form followed function for 15 billion years. The pareidolic face is the face of the eternal other. The scape goat. beyondpareidolia.shutterfly.com/1458
Invert this photo and see the so called Hegalian process (stolen from pareidolia like everything else just about) beyondpareidolia.shutterfly.com/1230 looks to me like a Native American with a 5 pointed star on his right shoulder.

There were pareidolic shadows on earth before there was man. Maybe man came here to see and learn something from them other than might is right.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">The Indian is very interesting. When you say "invert" do you mean:

Rotated 180 around the y-axis (referred to as "mirror" in PaintShopPro).
Rotated 180 around the x-axis (referred to as "flipped" in PSP)
Negative (negative usually has only one meaning)

In PSP, I don't have "invert" so I'm trying to understand what you did.


rd

Pareidolia is prejudiced against because it is not a pyramid non-democratic structure. Anyone can do it. You need no smarts, money, school. It goes against war/ money/school/ totalitarianism/ and all words and ideas.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by rderosa</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by pareidoliac</i>
<br />Not odd in the least to attempt to discredit the word pareidolia. Most people take things at face value. There is more value in the pareidolic face. The pareidolic face that is not bound up the way matter is bound up. i care not the least about martian art or earthly art- they are created by beings in a material form with all the foibles/ ego/ ideas etc. even Van Gogh. Look with your own eyes at the nearly forbidden? pareidolia and compare it to art/ philosophy/ music or any other man contrived attempt to be "artistic" (an idea). Pareidolia is beyond ideas/ thought/ work/. The human face is a roadmap of how form followed function for 15 billion years. The pareidolic face is the face of the eternal other. The scape goat. beyondpareidolia.shutterfly.com/1458
Invert this photo and see the so called Hegalian process (stolen from pareidolia like everything else just about) beyondpareidolia.shutterfly.com/1230 looks to me like a Native American with a 5 pointed star on his right shoulder.

There were pareidolic shadows on earth before there was man. Maybe man came here to see and learn something from them other than might is right.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">The Indian is very interesting. When you say "invert" do you mean:

Rotated 180 around the y-axis (referred to as "mirror" in PaintShopPro).
Rotated 180 around the x-axis (referred to as "flipped" in PSP)
Negative (negative usually has only one meaning)

In PSP, I don't have "invert" so I'm trying to understand what you did.


rd
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The two photos are the same- "Native American" one way. beyondpareidolia.shutterfly.com/1230

Inverted to get "Eternal Other". beyondpareidolia.shutterfly.com/1458

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by rderosa</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Marsevidence01</i>
<br />In my opinion (that's always a good disclaimer), you are spending way too much time "talking" (as in writing) and way too little time "proving."rd
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I write and you respond. You are always free not to respond. Malcolm Scott<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">


No, you missed my point. Or maybe I didn't quite make that clear enough.

What I'm saying is, if your goal is to convince others of your "proof", and by all means it seems that it is since you even went so far as to try and ban a word you claim is getting in the way of you successfully drawing in others into the Anomaly Hunt, then you might have a better chance achieving that goal (of convincing others) if you spent less time talking and more time proving.

Just seems logical to me, in general, and specifically to the people here, it's very accurate. You're never going to convince us by <b>telling us what you see, and how excited it made you, and how convinced you are, and why the notion of "pareidolia" is getting in the way, etc. etc.</b>

The only thing that's ever going to convince anyone is actual proof. That's why I would think it makes more sense to concentrate on that, and not so much on debate.

rd
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Rich, thanks for clarifying that, you're right I did not understand you correctly.

And yes you are right, I (we) have spent several pages in this thread debating back and forth the application of Pareidolia. So please please do not misunderstand me here, it's not that I am an "anti-pareidoliac" not at all, in fact, I think it is a most interesting subject especially the work which Fred has undertaken, I see something here in his work which disturbs me somewhat.

My aim here was to get a base for future discussion (in another thread where we can avoid the misaligned subject (in my opinion) in the matter of anomalies on Mars. It's been a long drawn out journey, but at least we can agree that you have your Pareidolia thread, which is now somewhat isolated (for want of a better term) and this free's up me to introduce some interesting evaluations of the surface without the P-bomb.

Fair dinkum?

Malcolm Scott