The Thoery of everything, science and religion

Hi Alan, I read your posts and never comment because you write editorial rants with no point as far as I can see-you have a point of view and thats fine but what is there to reply to in anything you write? Maybe other posters have that problem too.

Jim,

"editorial rants" I dont get this unkind reply to any of my post on any of the forums of which I am a senior member.

So you have convinced me to unsubscibe from this very inactive forum

Alan, I may be too late, but I'll give it a shot.

I consider myself to be the religious scientific type. I think religion always used to be the explanation of the unknown. Now, I find that for all that science has discovered the ratio of what we know to what we don't know hasn't changed very much. We can go to the moon and cure many cancers, but the universe is exponentially larger than we ever before suspected. That we don't have a clue about the true nature of God hasn't changed much either, but faith has never been based on facts, it comes from feeling.

I think the Bible is a true account of what is. It's the language and the words used that cause confusion. If you tried to explain the nature of creation to a three-year-old, it might sound like a bible story. Most of it was written two thousand or more years ago but we didn't know there were other galaxies until 1925. Did Jesus or Abraham or the first Dali Llama believe in the big bang? Was Noah's ark a trading ship in the Black fresh water lake before it became the Black Sea? Were the Cro-Magnon race the decendants of Adam and Seth? Were the Watchers who according to the Book of Enoch came to earth at the time of Jared actually the basis of the Greek god stories? Was their city the original Atlantis? I don't know but some day we might find evidence.

I don't see how the theory of everything could ever be any more than the theory of everything so far. We are a lot like the flat landers, wondering what that third dimension might be like without having the means to understand it.

Knowledge and science require some rigour to pack concepts and find new ones from older, well verified and UNIVERSALLY admitted. It is accepted that a lot of observations have no explanation at a given time.
All religions say that they are the truth, it is a source of very bad things (wars...). Their holy texts are incoherent sets of tales which may have some historical origin and are generally distorsions of older, texts.
The worst effect of religions is that they try constantly to destroy the coherent ways to think, attacking people when they are in a weak state. Thus, they all attack the children's mind.

greg86
Well I observe there has been a response to my post so I will dive in and try again(no editorial ranting I hope).
I did not mean to bash belief about God and I am a believer in intelligent design , not 6 dat creation nonsense.

I take your point about the horrors perpetrated by so-called follows of religious icons.

But if we take the case of Jesus he was not responsible for the reprobates and their unspeakable depravity done in his name.

These people who called themselves Christians who were decidedly not Christians and were/are a disgrace to the memmry of this remarkable soul.

If they, our us, for that matter lived the way Jesus said we should live,there would be peace on earth instead of everlasting strife.

Mahatma Gandy said he would have become a Christian if it were not for the appalling example those who professed to be Christians as showed up in their deeds and actions. He loved Christ but despised Christians

Alan



I feel as if I am a small boy holding but a teaspoon of knowledge standing before the Infinity Ocean of all knowledge

I hate to break this to ya Alan, but chances are very high that.......... Jesus never existed. It's just a nice little story about a man named Jesus, could have been a story about a man named Jed, barely kept his family fed. This damned story probably cost civilization several hundred years of scientific advancement, and it continues to rear it's ugly head into the new millenia.