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17 years 3 months ago #19675 by Stoat
Replied by Stoat on topic Reply from Robert Turner
I just had a slower read through of the article on that link. I also tried to download some of the papers on the subject but none of them can be downloaded anymore. I hope it's not just paranoia on my part but I suspect that the military are closing the stable door after the horse has bolted once again.

To be fair to them, there is the point that if someone is trying to make a cloaked fighter plane, then someone else, in the same building, will be working on a superlens radar. As the cat is out of the bag, I hope that NASA can get access to the work, in order to build a superlens telescope.

A little that's not too clear from the article. We can write the Lorenzian, sqrt(1 - v^2/c^2) We can write the same thing as sqrt(1 - 1/eta^2) which is the refractive index. We can write eta as epsilon times mu, which is the same thing written in terms of permitivity and pearmeability.

With a neg refractive index, we have one, minus, minus, which is a plus. So for a minus one r.i. we are talking about an ftl velocity.

One may ask, if the permitivity and the permeability are negative, and we have to square this, how is the index still negative? the answer is that we are dealing with complex roots. Space is viscoelastic in nature.

The other point to look at, is those tiny little split rings. The ring is a coil, and the split is a capacitor, so draw a tank circuit.

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17 years 3 months ago #18049 by cosmicsurfer
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Hi Stoat, Not much time but started reading the article. Very interesting and makes me wonder about nature of light and how it responds also almost like a BEC---BAND GAPS create negative refraction and blocks light from going from antimatter to matter side of motion. How this works may explain a lot of things on large scale and small scale within atoms. I read about this a long time ago, but two opposing rotational fields [of quanta/energy] with opposite polarity will block light from crossing the band gap [Wonder if band gap can become a spark gap like a gluon under certain circumstances/if capacitance is not modulated by spinning off excess energy/waveforms]. I wonder if the antimatter portion of atomic structure creates a negative refraction that not only reverses light but also reverses the time/conduit/motion/of forward regenerative processes within all mass. In otherwords, invisibility, cold energy, antigravity, all have something in common. The flaring of the reverse wave heading back to the other side can be amplified that is when you get cold welds, no friction, and cold energy that is just as dynamic as hot energy---zero friction, and the equipment gets very cold when it is running!!! Same energy, just the effects of gravity that creates the friction (searl device runs cold)....

Back to this metamaterials and negative refractive index, I will study the data and re-read your posts...will talk again later,

John

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17 years 3 months ago #19905 by Stoat
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Hi john, buy a huge box of paracetamol[:D] I've been thinking about the superconducting electron pair flow at this 3km boundary in our sun. On the pos r.i. side the cooper pairs are going, let's say clockwise at the speed of light but they are in a bec, so they are not breaking any rules. Cooper pairs flowing just inside the neg r.i. radius are going faster than light but again they are in a bec, they look as though they are going at the speed as the particles outer to them. Now, a cooper pair is a boson, so it's it own antiparticle. If it crosses the r.i. barrier it doesn't start to go anticlockwise but its electrons swap over and become positrons.

Also, at this barrier, we can have virtual particles being whipped apart at the barrier, before they can pay back the time reversed energy borrowing that brought them into existence. Can cooper pairs be ripped apart also at the boundary? In that case one of the pair will find itself going the wrong way on a multilane highway. Can an electron have one of its magnetic poles ripped of for that matter?

A neg r.i. bec is a really strange bit of kit but it does allow electrons/positrons and photons to scoop up gravitational energy and wander back and forth over the 3km barrier. In fact I'd argue that the temperature of this ball is going to be uniform. It's hot but there's little banging about of furniture in this thing.

(Edited) Improving a 21cm radio telescope would be fairly simple. I wonder if anyone is trying it. It's just neg permeability split rings and neg permitivity wires, that have to be smaller than the wavelegnth.

(Edited again) Infra red springs to mind. make our split rings as little mobius strips and imbed thse into some polyner fabric. Then we could sell shirts to cat burglars. We could clean up [:D] I'd pay good money for such a shirt, in my second career as a burglar. It should also be warmer. forget ftl flight, let's all get into the jumper business [:D][:)][8D]

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17 years 1 month ago #18301 by cosmicsurfer
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Hi Stoat, I was just re-reading some of our posts and thinking about graviton demodulation, BEC state, centered in the Nucleon. The transfer mechanism is brilliant, equalized from all directions...thus only a collapsing mechanism can generate graviton rains. High frequency gravitons condensate around boundary conditions entering our physical scale of visible universe at extreme speeds forming a constant rain in the form of a liquid BEC.

So, with a FTL superlens maybe we could see a whole new struture of Universe. Space might be a BEC fabric [extreme motion would look like a solid], and mass might be a different kind of space arranged around lines of force generated by extreme gravitostatic fields that pass right through mass and operate above speeds of light-generating electrical/magnetic effects...an iso-duality between positive and negative r.i. and time. John

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17 years 1 month ago #18304 by Stoat
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Hi john, sorry I never noticed this, I've been busy making 3d models of loxodromes for that guy that Colleen mentioned in your thread. I put the animation's of these things up over at his yahoo group. Remember that I was thinking that we could get an estimate of the speed of gravity by tying it to charge conservation of the electron? The loxodrame model looks like it does just that. Think of a loxodrome as peeling an apple in one strip. When a variable "a" is one, we have something that looks like our apple peel hanging in space. When the "a" is zero, we have a toroid.

What's good about this, is that for a superlens we need very small split rings to handle the neg permeability of the lens; a tank circuit in effect. Loxodrome electrons should have this quality, there is a little gap there. Taken that as h, I get a capacitance of about 8.4nC

An added bonus is that there's a lot of people here who absolutely loath the notion of a toroidal electron.[:D][8D] Having said that, the toroid has a magnetic field about it, so that it looks like a ball with two dimples in it.

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17 years 1 month ago #20453 by Leo Vuyk
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I would like to propose a different approach on gravitational lensing, based on a different distribution of black holes as the mainstream has accepted.

The fact that the nuclei of Galaxies do not show a lensing effect does not prove that black holes have no lensing capability, because I assume, there are no massive black holes inside these galaxy nuclei.
I propose that massive black holes are not located inside the nuclei of Spiral Galaxies, but located in a dumbbell distribution (as dark matter) on both sides of the Galaxy plane. Some small black holes as the products of supernova explosions are supposed to be located inside the nucleus of Galaxies.
I assume that black holes are different from the mainstream, if we accept that due to their special propeller FORM, Fermions are not able to traverse the light horizon of the black hole.
See: Fermion repulsion around a black hole.
bp0.blogger.com/_ArDoWzECXSo/Reb9W5HVbDI...H+++OLD+NEW+BH+4.jpg

Conclusion:
Gravitational lensing around black holes is supposed to be real, but we are looking at the wrong places.
The theoretical model for this assumption is a little bit complex and explained on my Webblog.
However we can see a clear example of a newly formed galaxy with two or even more dumbbell located black holes. It is called: Cygnus A.
photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/2787/2214/...loud%20formation.jpg

The synchrotron jets form here a real cosmic electric production plant, because electrons are smashed into the both black hole directions and positive charged ions remain in the centre of the galaxy.
As a result the GAS around the black holes will travel into the direction of the nucleus. (see above)

Based on this principle I made some sketches for different types of Galaxies. See:
photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2787/2214/1600/S.%20p.%2026.0.jpg

see perhaps also:
Galaxy form and formation:
bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/2006_04_01_archive.html

Leo Vuyk.

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