A particle gravity model sans gravitons.

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22 years 5 months ago #2520 by AgoraBasta
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Jim,

Please try to search the "casimir force" at google [url] www.google.com/search?q=%22casimir+force...=%22cazimir+force%22 [/url] - oodles of info...

The Casimir force (I tend to misspell it to the original Slavic form "Cazimir/Kazimir") is an attractive force between two flat conductive surfaces in vacuum, it's caused by screening of lower frequency components of ZPF in the area between the conductive plates while their outer surfaces are exposed to the full ZPF pressure.

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22 years 5 months ago #2552 by Jim
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OK I got it now. There are many mysteries in electronics and this one seems a bit like what a condenser does to me-so that shows how little I know about electronics. So, how does a force that is a puzzlement for sure relate to zero point fields? My original question was weather or not a field of that kind was real and what part it played in the structure of the universe or parts of it. Given every particle has mass and gravity where is a ZPF at work? There are great mass structures where gravity is at work so, is gravity a ZPF? I don't see any connection between electronic force fields and gravity fields, but, there may be one.

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22 years 5 months ago #2522 by AgoraBasta
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I don't see any connection between electronic force fields and gravity fields, but, there may be one.

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That attraction has absolutely nothing to do with electronics, period. It's a mechanical attraction between non-charged pieces of conductive material. The Casimir force as a ZPF effect was predicted in QM/QED and qualitatively proven in experiment.
You should really read more into the matter....

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22 years 5 months ago #2523 by Jim
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The conditions of vacuum are not available here on Earth due to poorly engineered equipment so it is not as you say. The effect if it is happening is in only a partial vacuum so other particles are effecting the experiment. Is this problem accounted for?

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22 years 5 months ago #2524 by AgoraBasta
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Jim please stop trolling!
(AB, Please let me do the monitoring. My suggestion is, if you don't like a particular contribution--ignore it. Thanks, Monitor).

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22 years 5 months ago #2529 by Jim
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I found a good explaination of Casimir force and it is very much a baby of electronic research. QM is one of the tools in that field of research and I suspect the QM is a theory with faults that cause these kinds of effects.

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