Gravity Probe B

Tom,

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Kopeikin failed to realize the very points I made above about the differences between gravitational force propagation and changes in gravitational potential fields. He was criticized not just by me, but by every mainstream relativist who chose to comment.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Why doesn't the media wait until scientific results have been sufficiently critized? After all, the media has a moral obligation to report news with a minimum of subjectivism.

Kopeikin's results on "speed of gravity" were presented by major news websites on relatively short notice. It seemed as if his results were fully accepted by the scientific community, but you clearly pointed out that this is not the case. Moreover, knowledgeable relativists were among those who raised objections.

Has the general public been misled by Kopeikin's results? (it surely looks that way)

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by tvanflandern</i>
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<i>Originally posted by north</i>
<br />now don't get me wrong Tom, but SPIN has been ignored in your theory for the most part.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">I don't get you wrong because I don't get you at all. Spin is just angular momentum being conserved. What has that got to do with gravitational force??

Please be specific. No "magic wand" arguments. -|Tom|-
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Ans: in my way of thinking gravity is "ordered space" and it is the Spin of Galaxies,Suns,planets,Moons etc. that orders it. or gives space direction. to me space is filled with a 3D fluidic matrix thats in a state of non-direction or movement until acted upon.because of this matrix there is an instantaneous,in a solar system for example,of, if i may put it this way,gravity communication between the Sun and all of it's planets,moons etc.,although the further away from the Sun a planet is of course the less this is. and this "communication" is complicated by the coming together of all the spining masses space of influence,sort of like many ripples in a large pond meeting at many different places,angles and degrees of. this is where fluid-dynamics comes in, it is able to give a 3D picture of the dynamics and to my mind will give a complete picture of all the Universes astrophysical dynamics.now i have sought out a computer program which would enable me to do precisely this,however at the moment i have been told that there is no computer powerful enough to do this.

just a little note, i think that i can safely say that my view predicts galaxy jets,spiral arms and other equatorial dynamics.also there are other considerations such as magnetospheres and their influence,the travelling of the solar system it's self through space,the Milky Way itself. all these considerations and many more will all come under the analysis of fluid-dynamics.


no "magic wand" here!![]

also,i almost forgot, atmospheres also play apart in gravity.

You seem to be saying the standard view now is that the speed of light is not the speed of gravity and the standard model accepts this as a fact now. Do you know when this view was adopted by the standard model? I need a time line for my simple minded understanding of these things.

<i>Originally posted by Jim</i>
<br />You seem to be saying the standard view now is that the speed of light is not the speed of gravity and the standard model accepts this as a fact now.
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ANS: not quite sure what you mean here,but i will say that i'm NOT a PROPONENT of the standard model.

Jim

i'm obviously in agreement with Tom on the instaneous of gravities grasp.

just a little thought though, simple&complex go hand in hand,the simplest thing i now of is the hydrogen atom but it's complexity is in the understanding of it.