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16 years 9 months ago #14837
by GD
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Stoat,
You are at the beach. You lie down in a hamac in the sun and decide to read some greek literature and you doze off. when you wake up, you are as red as a lobster. You exclaim:
a) #$!! these sun rays (or heat wave) burnt the hell out of me!!
b) #$!! these photon, alpha ... particles shot the hell out of me!!
Wave or particle?
You are at the beach. You lie down in a hamac in the sun and decide to read some greek literature and you doze off. when you wake up, you are as red as a lobster. You exclaim:
a) #$!! these sun rays (or heat wave) burnt the hell out of me!!
b) #$!! these photon, alpha ... particles shot the hell out of me!!
Wave or particle?
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16 years 9 months ago #20500
by GD
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Stoat,
Space is not as empty as we think:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect
"The Casimir effect is an outcome of quantum field theory, which states that all of the various fundamental fields, such as the electromagnetic field, must be quantized at each and every point in space. In a nave sense, a field in physics may be envisioned as if space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a ball from its rest position. Vibrations in this field propagate and are governed by the appropriate <i>wave equation </i>for the particular field in question."
Do waves propagate in space through energy fields?
example: the energy field around the solar system diminishes with distance from the sun to the outer planets. The intensity of light diminishes correspondingly.
This brings me to next question: can the universe and its motion be treated as an energy field?
I think yes! There is a hint of this in Boltzmann equations:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlasov_equation
"The Boltzmann equation is also often used in dynamics, especially galactic dynamics."
"The Boltzmann equation, also often known as the Boltzmann transport equation, devised by Ludwig Boltzmann, describes the statistical distribution of one particle in a fluid. It is one of the most important equations of <b><i>non-equilibrium statistical mechanics</i></b>, the area of statistical mechanics that deals with systems far from thermodynamic equilibrium; for instance, when there is an applied temperature gradient or electric field."
electric field ... or energy field.
The varying temperature of the universe means varying coupling force of the electron around the nucleus of the atom.
I think this agrees with George Gamow's expanding and contracting universe.
I suggest that light is not a particle but a wave.
Space is not as empty as we think:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect
"The Casimir effect is an outcome of quantum field theory, which states that all of the various fundamental fields, such as the electromagnetic field, must be quantized at each and every point in space. In a nave sense, a field in physics may be envisioned as if space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a ball from its rest position. Vibrations in this field propagate and are governed by the appropriate <i>wave equation </i>for the particular field in question."
Do waves propagate in space through energy fields?
example: the energy field around the solar system diminishes with distance from the sun to the outer planets. The intensity of light diminishes correspondingly.
This brings me to next question: can the universe and its motion be treated as an energy field?
I think yes! There is a hint of this in Boltzmann equations:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlasov_equation
"The Boltzmann equation is also often used in dynamics, especially galactic dynamics."
"The Boltzmann equation, also often known as the Boltzmann transport equation, devised by Ludwig Boltzmann, describes the statistical distribution of one particle in a fluid. It is one of the most important equations of <b><i>non-equilibrium statistical mechanics</i></b>, the area of statistical mechanics that deals with systems far from thermodynamic equilibrium; for instance, when there is an applied temperature gradient or electric field."
electric field ... or energy field.
The varying temperature of the universe means varying coupling force of the electron around the nucleus of the atom.
I think this agrees with George Gamow's expanding and contracting universe.
I suggest that light is not a particle but a wave.
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16 years 8 months ago #7604
by GD
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Stoat,
I said previously:
"The half life of these particles could fall to zero quite rapidly !"
I will change this to:
The half life of these particles could <i>tend</i> to zero...
If a particle changes to a wave and energy is conserved, then the amount of energy cannot reach zero.
I will try to find info/ chronology of events on this particle/ wave confusion.
I said previously:
"The half life of these particles could fall to zero quite rapidly !"
I will change this to:
The half life of these particles could <i>tend</i> to zero...
If a particle changes to a wave and energy is conserved, then the amount of energy cannot reach zero.
I will try to find info/ chronology of events on this particle/ wave confusion.
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16 years 8 months ago #20657
by GD
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16 years 8 months ago #15898
by GD
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James Maxwell's electromagnetic wave model of light was challenged in the early 1900's and abandoned in the mid 1970's.
Compton's experiment showed that photons carried momentum proportional to their frequency (1922).
Taken from Wikipedia:
"Even after Compton's experiment, Bohr, Hendrik Kramers and John Slater made one last attempt to preserve the Maxwellian continuous electromagnetic field model of light, the so-called BKS model. To account for the then-available data, two drastic hypotheses had to be made:
1) <i>Energy and momentum are conserved only on the average in interactions between matter and radiation</i>, not in elementary processes such as absorption and emission. This allows one to reconcile the discontinuously changing energy of the atom (jump between energy states) with the continuous release of energy into radiation.
2) <i>Causality is abandoned.</i> For example, spontaneous emissions are merely emissions induced by a "virtual" electromagnetic field. "
According to what I have been saying, 1) should be: energy is conserved but not momentum. Therefore momentum varies proportional to frequency change.
"continuous release of energy into radiation" is what I call particle changes into a wave.
2) Causality should not be abandoned: In non-equilibrium systems, time suffices for cause and effect.
I will look more into this...
Compton's experiment showed that photons carried momentum proportional to their frequency (1922).
Taken from Wikipedia:
"Even after Compton's experiment, Bohr, Hendrik Kramers and John Slater made one last attempt to preserve the Maxwellian continuous electromagnetic field model of light, the so-called BKS model. To account for the then-available data, two drastic hypotheses had to be made:
1) <i>Energy and momentum are conserved only on the average in interactions between matter and radiation</i>, not in elementary processes such as absorption and emission. This allows one to reconcile the discontinuously changing energy of the atom (jump between energy states) with the continuous release of energy into radiation.
2) <i>Causality is abandoned.</i> For example, spontaneous emissions are merely emissions induced by a "virtual" electromagnetic field. "
According to what I have been saying, 1) should be: energy is conserved but not momentum. Therefore momentum varies proportional to frequency change.
"continuous release of energy into radiation" is what I call particle changes into a wave.
2) Causality should not be abandoned: In non-equilibrium systems, time suffices for cause and effect.
I will look more into this...
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16 years 8 months ago #7669
by Stoat
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Hi GD, Iv'e found the ideas of this guy to be very useful. His modelof teh photon and electron in particular. some of the stuff s past teh russian text so be sure to scroll down the whole thing to see what's worth a look at.
www.guns.connect.fi/innoplaza/energy/sto.../index.html#articles
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