Gravitons and Push Gravity question.

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Tom , the above question is also for you , is the lead(Pb) dense enough not to allow gravitons to have an effect? .(the ability of gravitons to penetrate the density of the lead(Pb)).since i would think that lead is denser than the Earths crust.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by north</i>
<br />is the lead(Pb) dense enough not to allow gravitons to have an effect?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">No ordinary matter is dense enough to produce significant gravitational shielding. All ordinary matter is as transparent to gravitons as a chain-link fence is to the wind.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">i would think that lead is denser than the Earths crust.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Yes, lead is denser. Earth's crust averages only about 3 g/cc. Why is that relevant?

If a body was dense enough for graviton shielding (say, matter from a neutron star, for which a teaspoonful would weigh tons), it would not fall as fast as ordinary matter because its inertial mass would exceed its gravitational mass. But to other outward appearances, the super-dense body would act normal. -|Tom|-

The analogy of a chain-link fence has brought something to mind. Not all chain link fences are the same. Let's say lead represents a greater thickness of the chain and the crust less dense. Would there be some type of compressinon and channeling effect? Would this cause variations in the "flow" of gravitons as they enter the earth strengthening gravity toward the center as they are compressed?

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by rousejohnny</i>
<br />Would there be some type of compressinon and channeling effect? Would this cause variations in the "flow" of gravitons as they enter the earth strengthening gravity toward the center as they are compressed?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">No, Earth is just too porous. Think of trying to stop a tsunami with a chain-link fence. -|Tom|-

Does Matter at the atomic level have a one to one relationship with Graviton entrainment so that a constant flow of gravity waves are bombarding each individual atom to cause a force directed towards the center of greatest Mass? If one billion Neutrinos pass, within the diameter of the size of a dime entirely through the earth every second, and are 100 times smaller then an electron; then what would be the size of a Graviton (must be ultra small)? I am curious about how short range gravity seems to be strengthen near Matter, and is somehow elevated by proximity to an electric field generated by that matter. Could Antimatter have a repulsive effect upon Matter Gravitational Processes and generate an opposing wave form? I could go on but probably enough for now...

John

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by cosmicsurfer</i>
<br />Does Matter at the atomic level have a one to one relationship with Graviton entrainment so that a constant flow of gravity waves are bombarding each individual atom to cause a force directed towards the center of greatest Mass?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">"Gravity waves" are a hydrodynamic effect in meteorology, not something of interest here. GR has "gravitational waves", but those have nothing to do with gravitons or graitational forces. (This is the only case where "gravity" as an adjective and "gravitational" cannot be used interchangeably.) In MM, the latter are elysium waves, or waves of gravitational potential. They have no effect on gravitational force because, in MM, potential does not cause force. Rather, force causes gradients in gravitational potential (= elysium = light-carrying medium).

There is no such thing as "graviton entrainment", but there is graviton absorption on occasion by matter ingredients, and there is elysium entrainment.

The force of gravity is caused by any two matter ingredients shadowing one another from some graviton impacts. Newton proved mathematically that, if one sums all the mutual (vector) forces between all the atoms in any regular body, the net force will always point toward the center of mass.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">If one billion Neutrinos pass, within the diameter of the size of a dime entirely through the earth every second, and are 100 times smaller then an electron; then what would be the size of a Graviton (must be ultra small)?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">A graviton must be a million or more times smaller than an electron.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I am curious about how short range gravity seems to be strengthen near Matter, and is somehow elevated by proximity to an electric field generated by that matter.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">It would be wise to wait until the phenomenon can be replicated before trying to explain it. Most physicists think these experiments had inasequate controls against stray forces, and are therefore meaningless.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Could Antimatter have a repulsive effect upon Matter Gravitational Processes and generate an opposing wave form?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">That requires a theory of antimatter. But for now, standard physics and MM both agree that antimatter is probably not repulsive. -|Tom|-