Antigravity Research

Hi Stoat, Sure I see your point and seeing half spin makes sense. However, a plasma exchange of some sort with branches takes place with each graviton ping which is the fuel for the engine. I still like positive and negative oceans because it is a good visual aid for seeing that each domain is a complete unit supporting mass rotations in two opposite dimensional directions of time.

Also, as I stated above the sine waves could cross both ways--Take your graph and make a mirror. Still looks same with small region energy levels in our spectrum, and large energy above light peaking on each side at same time. Is their synchronicity in the mirror? Could the peaks alternate on our positive side?---Could this be the neg r.i. shadow? -It would be much easier if there were only just one half wave----I will take a look at the half wave approach and see how this might relate to sine waves...It is possible that each region is ISO-LATED, that the negative phase is totally out of phase to such an extend that it is dominated by FORWARD MOTION. If so, maybe [just one half wave] the back flow wave would be extremely diminished non symmetric more like a stretched rubber band going back towards the ISO region just behind each positive phase of the sine wave.

I keep seeing two waves crossing which again relates to a ping coming from other side...however, we know from cp violations antimatter disappears first. So, the secondary wave may be really almost like a ghost wave vestigial from a far away center of activity.

There are many questions and maybe we need to make a list I will think about that, and see what we can accomplish in addressing each issue in how this exchange takes place without huge annihilations!

ISO = stands by itself DUAL =Together in same space. Almost a contradiction however we can see structure in separate space in small scales of matter and antimatter relationships, so most like our scale is in circular motion around coordinated axis with a separate envelop of antimatter region of space. The key issues here are the exchange....the reversal of the graviton wave in creating antigravitons may be from resonance alone with zero annihilations. But, some intermediary then must exchange energy between the envelops without causing an explosion. I think we have a great beginning here and we also need to explore the neg r.i. it is not visible, which leads to other questions about antiphotons. Do they radiate in our spectrum...and if so, how might we see them without building an antimatter spectrometer? If we could find a way to watch the exchange process between the two domains then clearly that would solve many of our questions.

John

Hi Guys,

Dave Thomson, author of the white paper above has a yahoo group of his own that decidedly you would enjoy. [rest of post removed]

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<br />Hi Guys,

Dave Thomson, author of the white paper above has a yahoo group of his own that decidedly you would enjoy. ...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">I'm sorry, Cole, but we don't allow advertising on this web site. It is for discussions of astronomy-related matters here, and here only. References to images or limited material elsewhere are allowed provided that the message contains enough information for the discussion to take place here without need to access another site -- especially when we can't assure that the referenced sites are safe to visit. I hope you understand. -|Tom|-

Hi Stoat, I think you are correct it is way too difficult looking at this relationship as two oceans because of the surface problems and wave interactions, the cern mirror analogy is a killer to understand. So, best to look at internal hypothetical structures with protons and see possible polar rotations allignments with graviton flow. Back to one half wave, and no mirrors...way to complicated but some reason my intuition says two waves, but for now one half wave at least gets us to a basic understanding on how it works on this side of the time flow. I will read Daves paper, look at the Iso-dual work some more and see if there is any matter/antimatter rotation information available for subparticles. John

For particles we have the situation that the bec neg r.i. makes the anti particle appear much much smaller than h. So in effect it's insulated from its partner. It does however know where it is, even if we don't. I think it will be more worthwhile to explore the event horizon inside of our sun. The bec neg r.i model can never collapse into a black hole. There's no singularity, just that wine bottle bottom shape. Though that shape is based on the idea that light and gravity travel at the same speed. With ftl gravitons we have something much more of a spike.

When I suggested thinking of it as a movie played backwards, I nearly suggested that there would be a mirror in the scene [] I decided not to complicate the matter more than it already was [8D]

A couple of things to look at. Hawking radiation and how "real" cooper pairs might cross the event horizon. Hmm... call it a boundary for now, as it's not an event horizon as commonly thought of. The other would be can this ball move from the sun centre? At the moment I can't think of anything to stop it. other than energy escape from its "flat edge." Remember this thing is a sphere that thinks it's a concave lens. It should have a flat ring round the edge but where is this ring? It has to be everywhere on the surface. This way doth madness lie [][8D]

p.s. Hi Coleen, I got that message that was moderator removed. A nice letter from that guy. When I'm not well, all I can do is grunt; with maybe a little pathetic whining []

I wrote the mod/Tom back to explain that Dave is in fragile health. I only suggested you go there to his yahoo group because he's not subjected to trolls there who simply want the tear down anything that isn't mainstream dogma.

People like you fellows here allow your intellect to be your guide so you think outside dogma and dare to explore alternative explanations to what is known.

Dave won't join us here; he can't risk stress should things go bad from an interloper. He's dangerously close to a stroke with his blood pressure issues and his physical strength has been flagging for months.

You guys are talking all about his theory and don't even know it. I can see it clearly as I'm fairly well versed on it. But I'm no physicist and can't speak to all that you consider as he can. It’s a crying shame if you three don't get to have dialog. I believe it would enrich your thoughts and tidy up many of the considerations you've been kicking around in here.

Oh well, I guess you'll have to settle for me, a lowly nurse who just happens to love physics.

When you talk about something that resides between our universe and the anti-universe that evolves with it and consider what keeps the two apart I’m reminded of Thomson diagram of aether units. I wish I knew how to insert images here so I could show you. See it here www.16pi2.com/rmfd_constant.htm

Essentially the two halves of an aether unit only seem to be separate because we can only see/experience the upper half of the total area scanned by matter as it travels along inside the aether unit. In other words the separation is only an illusion of our senses. The two seas of existence can be viewed as the polar extremes of the aether dipole. As with any opposite poles the two can never meet though we can measure effects that prove they are there.

At the point where energy traverses downward and travels into the center axis of the loxodrome it appears to make a flat region of separation because we can’t see what happens as matter pulses through the lower half of the aether unit. The horizon is an illusion. There is an equal amount of charge, energy and dynamic force going on on the other side. We know its there; we just can’t see/touch it.