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17 years 7 months ago #19444
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Is it just me, or does this sound like a 'bot to anyone else?
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17 years 7 months ago #19445
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Replied by tvanflandern on topic Reply from Tom Van Flandern
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Larry Burford</i>
<br />Is it just me, or does this sound like a 'bot to anyone else?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Our current security excludes all automated bots because one cannot get registered for posting without the ability to follow directions. Also, previous bots did not start new threads, but posted into existing threads. This could still be a bot assisted by a human, but what's the point then? More likely, dragos is young, trying to sound erudite beyond his years so he will be accepted as an adult, and fails to appreciate how weak his communication skills still are.
Dragos: your message is unintelligible. Try again in simple, plain English. Be specific about what you are talking about. Another message of apparent gibberish like the previous one will get you locked out. -|Tom|-
<br />Is it just me, or does this sound like a 'bot to anyone else?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Our current security excludes all automated bots because one cannot get registered for posting without the ability to follow directions. Also, previous bots did not start new threads, but posted into existing threads. This could still be a bot assisted by a human, but what's the point then? More likely, dragos is young, trying to sound erudite beyond his years so he will be accepted as an adult, and fails to appreciate how weak his communication skills still are.
Dragos: your message is unintelligible. Try again in simple, plain English. Be specific about what you are talking about. Another message of apparent gibberish like the previous one will get you locked out. -|Tom|-
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17 years 7 months ago #19447
by dragos
Replied by dragos on topic Reply from Drake Bailey
OK.
Present math does not cover the areas the discussion covers.
I reference hyperdimensional physics too all inclusively, for which I offer appologies.
The physics I reference deals with areas outside of the capability of our present 'math' to address.
Einstein only opened the door just a little in his work. Take a look at his reference to needing a new math adequate to the task.
Spherical dynamics deals with several areas in combination and situations that none of the present tools address in any way.
I see some think I'm a bot...bots and I do not get along. I have a funny tendency to cause them to turn off permanently. I won't say what I'd like to as this is public forum.
I will say that all of you give these so called bots a lot more credit that they deserve.
I had several things in mind when I joined this talk. First was to offer the questions above, second to see if anyone was ready, third to enlist anyone who would like to get involved in some really far out physics, math, and practical applications.
I hope this is plain enough english for everyone?
If there are questions about the original post, I have no problem refering or teaching those who want to know.
Reference: A mathematically created universe, 82944 and the God particle, String Theory, Gematria, Bible Nmerics, The Matter egg, Geomusic, Pyramid theory, Prime Number Cross, etc.
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Present math does not cover the areas the discussion covers.
I reference hyperdimensional physics too all inclusively, for which I offer appologies.
The physics I reference deals with areas outside of the capability of our present 'math' to address.
Einstein only opened the door just a little in his work. Take a look at his reference to needing a new math adequate to the task.
Spherical dynamics deals with several areas in combination and situations that none of the present tools address in any way.
I see some think I'm a bot...bots and I do not get along. I have a funny tendency to cause them to turn off permanently. I won't say what I'd like to as this is public forum.
I will say that all of you give these so called bots a lot more credit that they deserve.
I had several things in mind when I joined this talk. First was to offer the questions above, second to see if anyone was ready, third to enlist anyone who would like to get involved in some really far out physics, math, and practical applications.
I hope this is plain enough english for everyone?
If there are questions about the original post, I have no problem refering or teaching those who want to know.
Reference: A mathematically created universe, 82944 and the God particle, String Theory, Gematria, Bible Nmerics, The Matter egg, Geomusic, Pyramid theory, Prime Number Cross, etc.
My web site is in my profile.
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17 years 7 months ago #19448
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Replied by tvanflandern on topic Reply from Tom Van Flandern
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by dragos</i>
<br />Present math does not cover the areas the discussion covers.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">This is a statement with no obvious context. What "areas", and in what way is the present math deficient? Mysterious assertions are turn-offs to readers.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I reference hyperdimensional physics too all inclusively, for which I offer appologies.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">"Hyperdimensional physics" remains a science fiction concept in the same class as "black holes" and string theory.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">The physics I reference deals with areas outside of the capability of our present 'math' to address.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Again, vague and mysterious. What sort of physics is outside present math?
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Einstein only opened the door just a little in his work. Take a look at his reference to needing a new math adequate to the task.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">No one can "take a look" unless you provide a link or a page-specific citation. I certainly do not recall any such remarks by Einstein.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Spherical dynamics deals with several areas in combination and situations that none of the present tools address in any way.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">I for one have never heard the expression. You should explain what it is and how it can be that present math cannot "address it".
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I see some think I'm a bot...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Bots are unable to understand the meaning of human conversation. They are limited to the meanings of individual words. So they generally cannot follow directions, provide citations, or explain concepts. They can just parrot back the words in a sentence and say something non-responsive about those words. Make sure your next post is responsive to the meaning of the questions asked, and not just to the words used. That will convince the doubters that you are a person, not a bot.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I will say that all of you give these so called bots a lot more credit that they deserve.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Then you have very limited experience with them. Some bots are now very sophisticated. But their conversation meanders and is non-responsive.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I had several things in mind when I joined this talk. First was to offer the questions above, second to see if anyone was ready, third to enlist anyone who would like to get involved in some really far out physics, math, and practical applications.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Your first job is the learn and understand the physics recommended by this group, which appears on the parent web site of this Message Board, in our quarterly Meta Research Bulletin and our CDs, and in my book <i>Dark Matter, Missing Planets and New Comets</i>.
Once you understand our material, then show us where you see something wrong, or where you have a better way to explain or understand a concept. People who don't want to learn the models they hope to improve on, but just want feedback on their own ideas, are so numerous that few give them any attention these days. However, we do have a Professional Manuscript Review Service for such people, who must pay for the time of a professional to review their work and provide feedback. Few scientists have the luxury of offering free services to the public.
See metaresearch.org/publications/PMRS/PMRS.asp for details.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I hope this is plain enough english for everyone?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">It is much better than your first effort.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">If there are questions about the original post, I have no problem refering or teaching those who want to know.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Generally, people do not want to learn from someone who has not established himself or herself as better informed on the subject matter. If you have any credentials or existing articles in major publications, this would be a good time to mention them.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Reference: A mathematically created universe, 82944 and the God particle, String Theory, Gematria, Bible Nmerics, The Matter egg, Geomusic, Pyramid theory, Prime Number Cross, etc.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">None of these would be considered credible sources in this forum. Know your audience lest you put your foot in your mouth. -|Tom|-
<br />Present math does not cover the areas the discussion covers.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">This is a statement with no obvious context. What "areas", and in what way is the present math deficient? Mysterious assertions are turn-offs to readers.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I reference hyperdimensional physics too all inclusively, for which I offer appologies.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">"Hyperdimensional physics" remains a science fiction concept in the same class as "black holes" and string theory.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">The physics I reference deals with areas outside of the capability of our present 'math' to address.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Again, vague and mysterious. What sort of physics is outside present math?
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Einstein only opened the door just a little in his work. Take a look at his reference to needing a new math adequate to the task.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">No one can "take a look" unless you provide a link or a page-specific citation. I certainly do not recall any such remarks by Einstein.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Spherical dynamics deals with several areas in combination and situations that none of the present tools address in any way.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">I for one have never heard the expression. You should explain what it is and how it can be that present math cannot "address it".
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I see some think I'm a bot...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Bots are unable to understand the meaning of human conversation. They are limited to the meanings of individual words. So they generally cannot follow directions, provide citations, or explain concepts. They can just parrot back the words in a sentence and say something non-responsive about those words. Make sure your next post is responsive to the meaning of the questions asked, and not just to the words used. That will convince the doubters that you are a person, not a bot.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I will say that all of you give these so called bots a lot more credit that they deserve.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Then you have very limited experience with them. Some bots are now very sophisticated. But their conversation meanders and is non-responsive.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I had several things in mind when I joined this talk. First was to offer the questions above, second to see if anyone was ready, third to enlist anyone who would like to get involved in some really far out physics, math, and practical applications.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Your first job is the learn and understand the physics recommended by this group, which appears on the parent web site of this Message Board, in our quarterly Meta Research Bulletin and our CDs, and in my book <i>Dark Matter, Missing Planets and New Comets</i>.
Once you understand our material, then show us where you see something wrong, or where you have a better way to explain or understand a concept. People who don't want to learn the models they hope to improve on, but just want feedback on their own ideas, are so numerous that few give them any attention these days. However, we do have a Professional Manuscript Review Service for such people, who must pay for the time of a professional to review their work and provide feedback. Few scientists have the luxury of offering free services to the public.
See metaresearch.org/publications/PMRS/PMRS.asp for details.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I hope this is plain enough english for everyone?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">It is much better than your first effort.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">If there are questions about the original post, I have no problem refering or teaching those who want to know.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Generally, people do not want to learn from someone who has not established himself or herself as better informed on the subject matter. If you have any credentials or existing articles in major publications, this would be a good time to mention them.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Reference: A mathematically created universe, 82944 and the God particle, String Theory, Gematria, Bible Nmerics, The Matter egg, Geomusic, Pyramid theory, Prime Number Cross, etc.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">None of these would be considered credible sources in this forum. Know your audience lest you put your foot in your mouth. -|Tom|-
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17 years 7 months ago #19581
by PhilJ
Replied by PhilJ on topic Reply from Philip Janes
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Present math does not cover the areas the discussion covers.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">What discussion are you refering to, Dragos? You should not have started a new thread to discuss an existing one.
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