Astrophysics at galaxy center counters Relativity

Hello Ehd,

Had some ideas regarding zero lensing of light from galactic center. If gravitational processes operated at FTL speeds as TVF has shown, then there would be a good chance that any 'rings of resonance' around 'gravitational core' would not interfere with light because barrier rings of force would operate outside (higher frequencies above range of light) of the visible electromagnetic spectrum. Also, all lines of gravitational force would be pointed inwards except for flaring: electron coronal discharges are spiraling along lines of force (from gravitational compression)causing the flaring activity around the entire object most likely in front of any huge force fields. Since there is zero crossing of any electromagnetic fields (fields around core most likely operate at speed of Gravity and at higher frequencies preventing light from escaping) there is zero lensing, also core of black hole gravity field vectors are all pointing inwards.

If gravitation operates at the speed of light then you would be correct, there would not be any direct interaction between gravitation and electromagnetism at least in regards to this lensing of light at core of galaxy. I ask, is it possible that the Gravitational all pervasive force across the vastness of space is the glue that holds together our visible Universe and is also the center point for all interactions?

I think the Universe operates on a much more robust energy paradigm that includes zero space curvature (space is flat only fields of energy curve-mostly around mass), a much larger spectrum of energies beyond the frequencies of light, including Aether (high frequency particles) and Gravitons, and subsequent electromagnetic interactions that operate on hyperdimensional-multiple scales. When we begin to see a bigger picture then we can start explaining 'why' there are so many anomalous unexplainable effects.

John

Hello John:

It is interesting to note just as you say,

"When we begin to see a bigger picture then we can start explaining 'why' there are so many anomalous unexplainable effects."

I believe we will get to see some very big pictures very soon as the technical means improves and the astronomical instruments get more advance. Already, some major theoreticians are having to go back to the DRAWING BOARD. We will soon see some major accepted positions of the establishment and of the academia collapse. One of them is the so-called "gravitational lensing" as predicted by those who promote General Relativity.

The information is poring in from astronomical sources waiting to be correctly interpreted. That's where we come in!

Cheers,

EHDowdye


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<br />Hello Ehd,

Had some ideas regarding zero lensing of light from galactic center. If gravitational processes operated at FTL speeds as TVF has shown, then there would be a good chance that any 'rings of resonance' around 'gravitational core' would not interfere with light because barrier rings of force would operate outside (higher frequencies above range of light) of the visible electromagnetic spectrum. Also, all lines of gravitational force would be pointed inwards except for flaring: electron coronal discharges are spiraling along lines of force (from gravitational compression)causing the flaring activity around the entire object most likely in front of any huge force fields. Since there is zero crossing of any electromagnetic fields (fields around core most likely operate at speed of Gravity and at higher frequencies preventing light from escaping) there is zero lensing, also core of black hole gravity field vectors are all pointing inwards.

If gravitation operates at the speed of light then you would be correct, there would not be any direct interaction between gravitation and electromagnetism at least in regards to this lensing of light at core of galaxy. I ask, is it possible that the Gravitational all pervasive force across the vastness of space is the glue that holds together our visible Universe and is also the center point for all interactions?

I think the Universe operates on a much more robust energy paradigm that includes zero space curvature (space is flat only fields of energy curve-mostly around mass), a much larger spectrum of energies beyond the frequencies of light, including Aether (high frequency particles) and Gravitons, and subsequent electromagnetic interactions that operate on hyperdimensional-multiple scales. When we begin to see a bigger picture then we can start explaining 'why' there are so many anomalous unexplainable effects.

John
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ehd

In another thread I was looking at Mach's limit, and I think it has a bearing on this. We have GM^2 / r = MC^2. We can kick that around to get, GM / rC^2 = 1. Multiply that by two, if you think Robert Carroll is right, or four if Einstein. We than have 2GM / rC^2 = 2, or four.

2GM / rC^2 = 1-(1 / eta^2) The refractive index. But that has to equal either two or four. So that must mean we have a negative refractive index of minus one or minus point three.

To my mind this means that a black hole looks like a moon crater. A rapid slope downhill, then a central peak. It's not a singularity, and its qualities as a lens differ from what one might expect. There's going to be total internal reflection where space of pos r.i. meets neg r.i.

I think I'd better add to this, something about negative refractive index. The pub test is always a good one to check whether there are any problems with a concept. Blokes after a couple of pints would accept that things they could see through had a refractive index but not that everything does. Any material has a r.i, that is expressed in terms of it permeability and permitivity. Materials can have one or the other negative. However, it is possible to construct a material where both are negative. One might think that the squaring of eta would give us a positive r.i. in that case but not so, as we are dealing with complex roots.

We have to ask ourselves what happens to light in a black hole in the light of this (excuse the pun) Light can cancel out at the boundary, what happens to ftl gravitons?

Try a google for John Pendry and the superlens for moe on this pretty wild topic[8D]

Out of idle curiosity, I worked out the radius of the negative refractive index for the sun. it would be a sphere at the suns centre of about 3 km diameter. Remove the outer layers and we simply could not see this thing. I would argue that it would be also hidden as mass. What goes on inside of it, would be anybody's guess. Neutrons and electrons starved totally of electromagnetic radiation, yet we must assume the electrons are super conducting. They move but cannot slow down or speed up [8D][]

(Edited) for ftl particles, we up the neg r.i. to 20 billion c and and get a radius of 2.4647E-16 close to the size of the atomic nucleus.

(Edited again) I suppose that I'd better add that when we are talking about negative refractive index, we are on about ftl happenings. As one over eta squared is v squared over c squared. So this 3 km ball at the centre of the Sun, is going to be moving faster than light. That has to be a rotation but it doesn't want to fly apart, it wants to draw in. An inner shell of it would be belting round at many times c.

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Astrophysical Evidence shows that Profound Fundamental Principles
of Mathematical Physics have been misapplied
to the
Current Concepts of Gravitational Lensing
(currently being published)
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updated 22 August 2007

FOR DETAILS SEE: www.extinctionshift.com/SignificantFindi...Detail_15Aug2007.htm



New findings on an event taking place at Sagittarius A*, the galactic center, focuses on gravitational lensing and the lack of evidence for it taking place there. Findings reveal that important fundamental principles in optics and gravitation have been seriously ignored. A more detailed press release may be found at the link: newsblaze.com/story/2007041105070700002....RYLAND/Maryland.html Also in Europe: Astrophysikalische Phänomene im galaktischen Zentrum ... hominetz.de/bhp_Neues_News/bhp_Neues_aus...stronomie%20-03.html Additional press releases may follow.

Research reveals that the design of modern lensing tools frequently used by astrophysicists to estimate the gravitational lensing effects on light rays have been found to seriously ignore important fundamental principles in optics and gravitation. Convincing observational evidence at the site of Sagittarius A* at the galactic center appears to confirms this finding. It is revealed with convincing observational evidence that the theory pertaining to the lensing of light rays at the vicinity of a "point-like" gravitating mass is seriously flawed and that an incorrect understanding of the lensing of light rays still prevails. The events at the site of Sagittarius A* clearly show a lack of evidence for gravitational lensing.

Details have been published in a renowned refereed journal reference as: "Time resolved images from the center of the Galaxy appear to counter General Relativity", Dowdye, Jr., E.H., Astronomische Nachrichten, Volume 328, Issue 2, Date: February 2007, Pages: 186-191. The paper can be accessed on-line at: www3.interscience.wiley.com/search/allsearch
Search under author: Dowdye

Past decades of astrophysical observations convincingly show that, counter to the light bending principle of General Relativity, a direct interaction between Gravitation and Electromagnetism simply does not occur.

The findings show that important fundamental principles in optics and gravitation have been either seriously ignored or simply misapplied. It is readily seen that astrophysical events taking place at the center of our galaxy appear to counter the conventional understanding of the effect of gravitation on rays of light. A direct application of Gauss Law on the gravitating point-like mass at Sagittarius A*, believed by modern Astrophysics to be a black hole, along with the fundamental principle of optical reciprocity, clearly shows that the current models and conventional understanding for gravitational lensing on light rays from sources in the vicinity of the super massive galactic core is self violated.

Similar analysis shows that, if the light bending rules of General Relativity were actually valid, then a clear night sky would present many chances for the observation of an Einstein ring. In actuality, the geometry of the stellar background presents countless numbers of observational opportunities for the observation of Einstein rings. There are countless numbers of stellar objects co-linearly positions so as to present a night sky full of Einstein rings.

Details of the Mathematical Physics and fundamental principles of these findings may be gotten from a paper published in the renowned refereed journal Astronomische Nachrichten (Engl., Astronomical Notes), referenced as: "Time resolved images from the center of the Galaxy appear to counter General Relativity", Dowdye, Jr., E.H., Astronomische Nachrichten, Volume 328, Issue 2, Date: February 2007, Pages: 186-191.

The paper can be accessed on-line at: www3.interscience.wiley.com/search/allsearch
Search under author: Dowdye

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