Permanent Magnet Energy

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No, MM has not been extended in a serious way into the quantum world. -|Tom|-

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Energy is available from permanent magnets, all we have to do is figure out how to extract it.
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I think you jumped to fast to conclusion. If we examine the process used to magnetize their is other force than the magnet that play a role. Magnetism in permanent magnet is the result of the aligment of small magnetic domain in the raw material. When you move your material toward the magnet the material become a magnet and when you separe them some residual magnetism was left in the raw material. Repeating the operation add magnetism to the raw material.
The energy to make a magnet come from you arm!
That's an other possible conclusion!

Jacques,

Good point. Hadn't ever thought about that. However, on second thought the primary magnet does the work of alignment on the raw material if you expend energy seperating the magnets or not. So I don't see that as the answer.

Also there are other scenarios:

Take a round table and install a vertical mount. Atop the mount place an arm horizontal so that it can be rotated. Put a steel ball at the end of the arm, then mount a permanent magnet at the perimeter
of the round table.

Use you arm and hand to spin the steel ball and arm. The permanent magnet captures the kenetic energy and stores it in space (virtually no heat).

If a magnet can capture and convert kenetic energy and store it in space then why should we not think that we should be able to extract energy back from space and produce kenetic energy?

Especially if you recall that the permanent magnet does not decrease in its strength after doing work.?


Mac

I thought for days on this topic and scratched my head a lot. Then I thought of a possible explantion that could apply this problem to the MM, here goes a speculation...

The intial energy expended to create the permanent magnet (say in soft iron) caused alignment of randomly scattered moments. The question is then asked, "How can it stay permanent and create a force without anymore apparent energy input?"

My answer is this: The magnetic moments in iron and the traveling of electron waves goes on regardless of the magnetic vectors. Alignment allows net forces to be generated as all nuclei pull or push together. Before the energy was added, they were still going, so what creates motion in the atom? This lead me to conclude that graviton absorbtion creates a quantized effect. Motion occurs 1 or does not occur 0. Continual bombardment by gravitons then creates an analog to the photoelectric effect in the matter. This is true for all atoms. The property of magnetism then is illustrated only in certain types of atoms that can fit into matrices allowing for vector alignment (this being based on their more gross atomic characteristics.)

To summarize, electromagnetism waves are created by disturbances in the elysium due to interactions of the elysium and matter ingredients by gravitons. When a quantum of energy is absorbed, a wave is generated (or not). Specificity of materials can than allow this wave to generate a net force. Incidentally, this feeds into the regeneration of graviton cycle by TVF in Pushing Gravity. (Anyway I think it does

MV

Thank is a good piece of metatation. I have had the view that the alignment is only functional in a lattice type structure were once inacted it becomes re-enforcing like a standing wave.

I like the gravity feed through possibiility. Like you I am going to have to think on that for a whaile.

Thanks.