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15 years 1 month ago #23909
by JoeP
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Mark,
Thanks for the answer.
Here's a follow-up:
Is there ever a time when a matter-ingredient is NOT influenced by a graviton, when the 2 are in contact with each other?
-Joe
Thanks for the answer.
Here's a follow-up:
Is there ever a time when a matter-ingredient is NOT influenced by a graviton, when the 2 are in contact with each other?
-Joe
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15 years 1 month ago #15191
by MarkVitrone
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Joe,
Great follow-up. Dr. Van Flandern asked the same question and the observation of the finite effect of gravity answers that question. It has been observed (documentation in Dark Matter,) that the effect of gravity ceases after 21 kParsecs. So it could be reasoned that gravitons lose energy to MI's over distance. This energy is not lost but noticed as the background heat of the universe. A corollary that I never explored with Dr. Van Flandern is that this heat exchange follows an inverse square law and could explain the heat of the corona of stars.....I cannot provide data for this so it must remain speculation.....and he might hit me around my ears for saying before supporting it......
Great follow-up. Dr. Van Flandern asked the same question and the observation of the finite effect of gravity answers that question. It has been observed (documentation in Dark Matter,) that the effect of gravity ceases after 21 kParsecs. So it could be reasoned that gravitons lose energy to MI's over distance. This energy is not lost but noticed as the background heat of the universe. A corollary that I never explored with Dr. Van Flandern is that this heat exchange follows an inverse square law and could explain the heat of the corona of stars.....I cannot provide data for this so it must remain speculation.....and he might hit me around my ears for saying before supporting it......
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15 years 1 month ago #23112
by JoeP
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Mark,
Again, thanks for the answer.
Here's another:
Does a graviton-elyson pairing exist in MM? In other words, is there a chance of them 'sticking' to one another after making contact, rather than simply deflecting off one another? Perhaps, this could happen if each particle had no energy left. But, even then, what mechanism is present in MM that would enable them to lock together?
-Joe
Again, thanks for the answer.
Here's another:
Does a graviton-elyson pairing exist in MM? In other words, is there a chance of them 'sticking' to one another after making contact, rather than simply deflecting off one another? Perhaps, this could happen if each particle had no energy left. But, even then, what mechanism is present in MM that would enable them to lock together?
-Joe
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15 years 1 month ago #23113
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<br />Mark,
Again, thanks for the answer.
Here's another:
Does a graviton-elyson pairing exist in MM? In other words, is there a chance of them 'sticking' to one another after making contact, rather than simply deflecting off one another? Perhaps, this could happen if each particle had no energy left. But, even then, what mechanism is present in MM that would enable them to lock together?
-Joe
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Joe,
I have never thought of the graviton/elysium interaction as sticky or deflective.....I think of it as absorbtive in nature. This is why it is theorized that LCM increases in density near objects of great mass (stars, etc). In an earlier post I alluded to using gravity as an inverse square force against objects of great mass causing the hearing of solar corona....I would now extend that same argument to terrestrial and gaseous planets which both have poorly explained amounts of atmospheric plasma. The mechanism of either having atmospheric plasma in planets or coronal plasma in stars could have lot to do with the interaction of LCM and gravitons within magnetic fields. It has been observed that higher amounts of plasma exist in the atmospheres of those planets with a large magnetic field versus those planets or moons that do not have such a field.
From memory, those with fields and high plasma:
Sun, Earth, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, + several moons of the gas giants
Those without:
Mercury, Venus, Mars, + the terrestrial moons of Earth, Mars, Pluto...etc
So my point is that the interactions between LCM and gravitons may vary according to the planetary/solar characteristics as well. I have no doubt however that energies which have baffled measurements (like the background heat, free energies, regions of the Real Gas Law which are undefined) are indications of an interaction smaller than we can detect. It is in these areas where I think efforts at experimentation would be most beneficial and simpler than making guesses about deep space....an area where so much money is concentrated.....
Mark Vitrone
<br />Mark,
Again, thanks for the answer.
Here's another:
Does a graviton-elyson pairing exist in MM? In other words, is there a chance of them 'sticking' to one another after making contact, rather than simply deflecting off one another? Perhaps, this could happen if each particle had no energy left. But, even then, what mechanism is present in MM that would enable them to lock together?
-Joe
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Joe,
I have never thought of the graviton/elysium interaction as sticky or deflective.....I think of it as absorbtive in nature. This is why it is theorized that LCM increases in density near objects of great mass (stars, etc). In an earlier post I alluded to using gravity as an inverse square force against objects of great mass causing the hearing of solar corona....I would now extend that same argument to terrestrial and gaseous planets which both have poorly explained amounts of atmospheric plasma. The mechanism of either having atmospheric plasma in planets or coronal plasma in stars could have lot to do with the interaction of LCM and gravitons within magnetic fields. It has been observed that higher amounts of plasma exist in the atmospheres of those planets with a large magnetic field versus those planets or moons that do not have such a field.
From memory, those with fields and high plasma:
Sun, Earth, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, + several moons of the gas giants
Those without:
Mercury, Venus, Mars, + the terrestrial moons of Earth, Mars, Pluto...etc
So my point is that the interactions between LCM and gravitons may vary according to the planetary/solar characteristics as well. I have no doubt however that energies which have baffled measurements (like the background heat, free energies, regions of the Real Gas Law which are undefined) are indications of an interaction smaller than we can detect. It is in these areas where I think efforts at experimentation would be most beneficial and simpler than making guesses about deep space....an area where so much money is concentrated.....
Mark Vitrone
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15 years 1 month ago #23115
by JoeP
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1. How would using the inverse-square law help at all since the heat in the Sun's atmosphere does not follow a steady cline? As we approach the Sun, it gets hotter, eventually to many millions of degrees. Then, inexplicably, the cline breaks, and it gets cooler all the way to the surface, and into the interior - a cool-ish 4,400 degrees.
2. Why doesn't the inverse-square law create the same proportion of plasma for all bodies? You suggested the additional factor of the interaction of gravitons and elysons within a magnetic field. But, this is really a redundancy since a magnetic field is, by Dr.Van Flandern's estimation, an interplay between both types of particle. Correlating plasma to a magnetic field is another redundancy because plasma involves charge. And, charge is the result of another type of interplay between both types of particle. It would seem that the only necessity is discovering the reason for which gravitons and elysons favor residency with celestial bodies that have greater mass.
-Joe
1. How would using the inverse-square law help at all since the heat in the Sun's atmosphere does not follow a steady cline? As we approach the Sun, it gets hotter, eventually to many millions of degrees. Then, inexplicably, the cline breaks, and it gets cooler all the way to the surface, and into the interior - a cool-ish 4,400 degrees.
2. Why doesn't the inverse-square law create the same proportion of plasma for all bodies? You suggested the additional factor of the interaction of gravitons and elysons within a magnetic field. But, this is really a redundancy since a magnetic field is, by Dr.Van Flandern's estimation, an interplay between both types of particle. Correlating plasma to a magnetic field is another redundancy because plasma involves charge. And, charge is the result of another type of interplay between both types of particle. It would seem that the only necessity is discovering the reason for which gravitons and elysons favor residency with celestial bodies that have greater mass.
-Joe
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