Creation Ex Nihilo

To all objectors:

Edward P. Tryon, Professor of Physics at the City University of New York,

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"Imagination is more important than Knowledge" -- Albert Einstien

JRich,

I saw that and have taken time to post a specific one for you.[]

"Imagination is more important than Knowledge" -- Albert Einstien

Mac,
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Mac</i>
<br />To all objectors:

Edward P. Tryon, Professor of Physics at the City University of New York,

www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chapter5.html
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Tryon claims that the total energy of the universe is zero. This is because "the positive energy of everything that exists is balanced by negative gravitational energy". Clearly if x is "positive energy" and y is "negative energy", then x = y or x - y = 0. But the total energy is x + y, and since x = y, the total energy is 2x. Assuming the total energy is zero, then 2x = 0 so x = 0. But since x &lt;&gt; 0, 2x &lt;&gt; 0, so the total energy of the universe is not zero.

What Tryon really means is that the NET energy is zero, x - y = 0. But this is not nothing. Nothingness is when the GROSS energy is zero, x + y = 0. You, like Tryon, are confusing the two ideas.


JR

JRich,


<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><b>Tryon claims that the total energy of the universe is zero. This is because "the positive energy of everything that exists is balanced by negative gravitational energy". Clearly if x is "positive energy" and y is "negative energy", then x = y or x - y = 0. But the total energy is x + y, and since x = y, the total energy is 2x. Assuming the total energy is zero, then 2x = 0 so x = 0. But since x &lt;&gt; 0, 2x &lt;&gt; 0, so the total energy of the universe is not zero.

What Tryon really means is that the NET energy is zero, x - y = 0. But this is not nothing. Nothingness is when the GROSS energy is zero, x + y = 0. You, like Tryon, are confusing the two ideas.</b><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

ANS: Not hardly. But nice try. Have you ever heard of "Debate by moving the goal post". I have and it is a flawed defense.





"Imagination is more important than Knowledge" -- Albert Einstien

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Mac</i>
<br />JRich,


<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><b>Tryon claims that the total energy of the universe is zero. This is because "the positive energy of everything that exists is balanced by negative gravitational energy". Clearly if x is "positive energy" and y is "negative energy", then x = y or x - y = 0. But the total energy is x + y, and since x = y, the total energy is 2x. Assuming the total energy is zero, then 2x = 0 so x = 0. But since x &lt;&gt; 0, 2x &lt;&gt; 0, so the total energy of the universe is not zero.

What Tryon really means is that the NET energy is zero, x - y = 0. But this is not nothing. Nothingness is when the GROSS energy is zero, x + y = 0. You, like Tryon, are confusing the two ideas.</b><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

ANS: Not hardly. But nice try. Have you ever heard of "Debate by moving the goal post". I have and it is a flawed defense.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
How have I moved the goal post? Please explain.


JR

JRich,

You have made a number of challenges. i.e. - post some supporting documenttion. That infers there is none and my posts were wholly personal with no bonafide support.

Having posted a link you now chose to challenge the data posted. It is a never ending stratigy. You will always find another point to disagree with each time one is resolved.

You are one of those people that will refuse to acknowledge the "possibility" your view might be in error. I am not saying that you are converted but only that you don't accept any possiblity that you are in error. (My opinion)

"Imagination is more important than Knowledge" -- Albert Einstien