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20 years 3 months ago #11357
by Jan
Replied by Jan on topic Reply from Jan Vink
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Story A - anti gravity technology was perfected decades ago, propulsion systems were designed and manufactured in large quantities, and are the basis of a fleet of hyper-secret armed military space craft that never get used.
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Such a development would put a serious dent in the national budget. Trying to explain were all the money is going is difficult to say the least. You would need to gag all the politicians for decades to come: Mission Impossible.
Moreover, what about the "legions" of people working on the design and engineering side of things? We need to silence them as well: Mission Impossible II
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Story B - anti gravity technology is in the very early stages of disovery. Only a few people are able to get it to work, but when they do it works very well. The inventor's natural concers about premature disclosure (and loss of rightful credit and profit) have kept him from going public so far.
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Let's face it, disclosure need not jeopardize commercial aspects as long as you come to an agreement with those institutions you are showing your apparatus to. Hence, I still see no reason for Podkletnov to hold back.
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Story C - Fraud and-or incompetance/misunderstanding and-or wishful thinking/gullibility.
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Bulls' eye.
Story A - anti gravity technology was perfected decades ago, propulsion systems were designed and manufactured in large quantities, and are the basis of a fleet of hyper-secret armed military space craft that never get used.
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Such a development would put a serious dent in the national budget. Trying to explain were all the money is going is difficult to say the least. You would need to gag all the politicians for decades to come: Mission Impossible.
Moreover, what about the "legions" of people working on the design and engineering side of things? We need to silence them as well: Mission Impossible II
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Story B - anti gravity technology is in the very early stages of disovery. Only a few people are able to get it to work, but when they do it works very well. The inventor's natural concers about premature disclosure (and loss of rightful credit and profit) have kept him from going public so far.
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Let's face it, disclosure need not jeopardize commercial aspects as long as you come to an agreement with those institutions you are showing your apparatus to. Hence, I still see no reason for Podkletnov to hold back.
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Story C - Fraud and-or incompetance/misunderstanding and-or wishful thinking/gullibility.
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Bulls' eye.
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20 years 3 months ago #11305
by wisp
Replied by wisp on topic Reply from Kevin Harkess
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<br />Jan,
You seem like are very intelligent individual, however here you are being too idealistic. If this man has developed such a system he would never share the "trade secret" with those at MIT or Cal Tech. If he were to do this, they would immediately seize his process and carry it to new levels that would be patentable due to "improvements". The question is does this scientist love money more than science? How much does he have invested in the project and how much does he need to profit to break even? Maybe it is a hoax, only time will tell. Either it works or it doesn't, simple as that. But market economies, as great as they are, generate such obsticles to science....but they provide more capital for research than the alternative, so the trade off is fair I think.
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I think this is the right answer. Podkletnov has already been humiliated and lost his job when he first told of his discovery. He knows he is a small player compared to MIT or Cal Tech and if he gives his secrets away he will get left behind as others race ahead to further develop his ideas.
wisp
- particles of nothingness
<br />Jan,
You seem like are very intelligent individual, however here you are being too idealistic. If this man has developed such a system he would never share the "trade secret" with those at MIT or Cal Tech. If he were to do this, they would immediately seize his process and carry it to new levels that would be patentable due to "improvements". The question is does this scientist love money more than science? How much does he have invested in the project and how much does he need to profit to break even? Maybe it is a hoax, only time will tell. Either it works or it doesn't, simple as that. But market economies, as great as they are, generate such obsticles to science....but they provide more capital for research than the alternative, so the trade off is fair I think.
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I think this is the right answer. Podkletnov has already been humiliated and lost his job when he first told of his discovery. He knows he is a small player compared to MIT or Cal Tech and if he gives his secrets away he will get left behind as others race ahead to further develop his ideas.
wisp
- particles of nothingness
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20 years 3 months ago #11307
by Jan
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Podkletnov never should have associated his experimental results with "anti-gravity", and I firmly believe that this association was his death sentence. His experiment may have conformed with scientific rigour, but his findings should have been published in a different manner. Also, it would have been of great help when his experiments could have been replicated, regardless what caused the apparent mass decrease.
Podkletnov never should have associated his experimental results with "anti-gravity", and I firmly believe that this association was his death sentence. His experiment may have conformed with scientific rigour, but his findings should have been published in a different manner. Also, it would have been of great help when his experiments could have been replicated, regardless what caused the apparent mass decrease.
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