<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by rousejohnny</i>
<br />I argued since mass cannot travel beyond c that nothing could pull/push (gravity)with a force greater than the force necessary to achieve the c.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">In conventional theory, the relativistic mass increases, preventing the stronger force from being able to accelerate the mass to speed c no matter how strong that force becomes.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">the mathematical models below the event horizon are a violation of Occum's Razor and are not required to predict events outside the BH.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">I'd give the argument high marks for originality, anyway.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">How far off am I considering the mainstream idea of c being the speed of gravity, or does that even matter.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">No one who knows what he/she is talking about argues that gravitational force propagates at speed c. Only gravitational waves can do that, and they have nothing to do with gravitational force. Standard GR has two physical interpretations, the geometric interpretation and the field interpretation. In the geometric interpretation (only), gravity is not a force (just a curvature) and therefore has no propagation speed. -|Tom|-
