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18 years 6 months ago #10685
by Dangus
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I suspect we will need to use "energy" to harness the fundemental forces outlined by Meta Model. That is, make a "net" of sorts out of some sort of dense field of Elysium, or whatever. Hypothetically it could be a means to generate power, or maybe blow up the planet(EPH 3.0?). I have a gut feeling that it would be better to experiment heavily on the serious manipulation of gravitons on some body other than Earth. Actually, doing the experiments in a "low-gravity" environment might be beneficial anyway. I just don't see a whole lot of near-term practical uses for Meta Model. It definitely does have some use though(and I suspect Tom's work on GPS is proving that).
Right now I see it more as laying the groundwork for later technologies. It's quite possible at some point we will have the ability to influence a mass uniformly and suddenly, accelerating it to currently unimaginable speeds and then slowing it down again at some destination for what would seem like instant travel. I don't believe we'll probably ever have true teleportation, but I suspect we'll have something that is hard to distinguish from such.
"Regret can only change the future" -Me
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." Frank Herbert, Dune 1965
Right now I see it more as laying the groundwork for later technologies. It's quite possible at some point we will have the ability to influence a mass uniformly and suddenly, accelerating it to currently unimaginable speeds and then slowing it down again at some destination for what would seem like instant travel. I don't believe we'll probably ever have true teleportation, but I suspect we'll have something that is hard to distinguish from such.
"Regret can only change the future" -Me
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." Frank Herbert, Dune 1965
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18 years 6 months ago #10690
by Larry Burford
Replied by Larry Burford on topic Reply from Larry Burford
modu,
I think I understand what you are getting at. See if this helps.
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You understand that each atom is very transparent to gravitons. Most of them pass through a given atom as if it did not exist, but every once in a while a graviton will hit something inside the atom. This gives the atom a push.
You also understand that, despite the low probability of such a hit, there are so many gravitons passing through a given atom that each atom gets hit a lot (trillions? of times per second, billions-of-trillions? – we do not know for sure, but it is a lot.)
You further understand that to a first approximation (and to a second or third approximation), each atom in a larger group of atoms (such as a cylinder) receivers an equal number of graviton hits from all directions.
But –
You also see that, for gravitons moving in the vertical direction, the probability of a graviton hit for two atoms aligned vertically is greater than the probability of a graviton hit for the same two atoms aligned horizontally.
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I believe you are correct. However, this effect it is too small (in theory and in reality) to be detected with state of the art instruents. Atoms and the things they are made of are very very very (did I mention very?) transpartent to gravitons. Stacking them has no effect that is detectable (at this time).
If you and I are correct, some day this effect will be detectable. At that time the effect will probably cause many scientists to slap their forhead and say “doh”.
Sigh. Too bad we are not there yet.
Regards,
LB
I think I understand what you are getting at. See if this helps.
===
You understand that each atom is very transparent to gravitons. Most of them pass through a given atom as if it did not exist, but every once in a while a graviton will hit something inside the atom. This gives the atom a push.
You also understand that, despite the low probability of such a hit, there are so many gravitons passing through a given atom that each atom gets hit a lot (trillions? of times per second, billions-of-trillions? – we do not know for sure, but it is a lot.)
You further understand that to a first approximation (and to a second or third approximation), each atom in a larger group of atoms (such as a cylinder) receivers an equal number of graviton hits from all directions.
But –
You also see that, for gravitons moving in the vertical direction, the probability of a graviton hit for two atoms aligned vertically is greater than the probability of a graviton hit for the same two atoms aligned horizontally.
===
I believe you are correct. However, this effect it is too small (in theory and in reality) to be detected with state of the art instruents. Atoms and the things they are made of are very very very (did I mention very?) transpartent to gravitons. Stacking them has no effect that is detectable (at this time).
If you and I are correct, some day this effect will be detectable. At that time the effect will probably cause many scientists to slap their forhead and say “doh”.
Sigh. Too bad we are not there yet.
Regards,
LB
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18 years 6 months ago #10721
by modu
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Hi Larry
Thanks for simplifying my idea. pity thogh we dont have the proper instruments to measure such effect (i thoght we did), for i belive it would have determined which of the two theories (newtonian vs le sage/push gravity) is more "correct"
modu
Thanks for simplifying my idea. pity thogh we dont have the proper instruments to measure such effect (i thoght we did), for i belive it would have determined which of the two theories (newtonian vs le sage/push gravity) is more "correct"
modu
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