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18 years 6 months ago #15825
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Replied by emanuel on topic Reply from Emanuel Sferios
Hey Tom,
Can you post (or email me) the 10% of the Cydonia sites you consider worth a scientists time.
Thanks,
Emanuel
Can you post (or email me) the 10% of the Cydonia sites you consider worth a scientists time.
Thanks,
Emanuel
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18 years 3 months ago #16312
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Try looking at The Cydonia Institute's web site:
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18 years 3 months ago #16193
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Zip Monster</i>
<br />Try looking at The Cydonia Institute's web site<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Zip, we don't allow advertising on this site. It is for discussion of Meta Science and all astronomy-related issues that may entail. We have a policy against links whose only apparent purpose is to build traffic for other sites. The proper procedure is to put everything relevant to the on-going discussion into the message here. A link can then be added to reference a single graphic, table, or some discussion aid. But the expectation must always be that no one be required to click on a link to follow the discussion, thereby risking being subjected to ads, cookies, or an unknown environment. The discussants here appreciate that this is a protected environment, friendly to the discussion of idea that are not taken seriously elsewhere.
If you have something to say relevant to the discussion, say it clearly. You can add your link as a reference, but the relevant material plus responses to all questions or challenges must appear here and not just by reference. Thanks for your understanding. -|Tom|-
<br />Try looking at The Cydonia Institute's web site<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Zip, we don't allow advertising on this site. It is for discussion of Meta Science and all astronomy-related issues that may entail. We have a policy against links whose only apparent purpose is to build traffic for other sites. The proper procedure is to put everything relevant to the on-going discussion into the message here. A link can then be added to reference a single graphic, table, or some discussion aid. But the expectation must always be that no one be required to click on a link to follow the discussion, thereby risking being subjected to ads, cookies, or an unknown environment. The discussants here appreciate that this is a protected environment, friendly to the discussion of idea that are not taken seriously elsewhere.
If you have something to say relevant to the discussion, say it clearly. You can add your link as a reference, but the relevant material plus responses to all questions or challenges must appear here and not just by reference. Thanks for your understanding. -|Tom|-
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18 years 3 months ago #9051
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Moving on to the feline aspects of the Cydonia Face. I will demonstrate how the feline features are readily apparent without the aid of mirroring.
The eastern (right) side of the 2001 image of the Face confirms the feline aspect of the eastern side of the "Face" as seen in the 1976 and 1998 images.
Notice that in the 2001 photo (below) and the current 2006 image of the Feline side - that they both retain the crown feature (referred to as the “terrace” by TVF) and the overall square shape to the head.
We still see the rectangular, squinting eye, the muzzle, and a short zig-zag shaped mane (or beard). The only surprise in the 2001 photograph was the presents of four little "fangs" at the top and bottom of a flailing "tongue". The tongue is highly decorated with a crown like pattern. In Mesoamerican cultures the flailing tongue was often seen as a sign of bloodletting. The tongue was synonymous with the sacrificial knife and in many Mesoamerican images a protruding tongue was shaped like a highly decorative knife blade.
2001 Feline side: NASA/JPL (E03-00824)
Note: the crown , the square shaped head, the rectangular, squinting eye, the muzzle, and short zig-zag shaped mane (or beard). Also note the four little "fangs" at the top and bottom of the flailing tongue.
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The eastern (right) side of the 2001 image of the Face confirms the feline aspect of the eastern side of the "Face" as seen in the 1976 and 1998 images.
Notice that in the 2001 photo (below) and the current 2006 image of the Feline side - that they both retain the crown feature (referred to as the “terrace” by TVF) and the overall square shape to the head.
We still see the rectangular, squinting eye, the muzzle, and a short zig-zag shaped mane (or beard). The only surprise in the 2001 photograph was the presents of four little "fangs" at the top and bottom of a flailing "tongue". The tongue is highly decorated with a crown like pattern. In Mesoamerican cultures the flailing tongue was often seen as a sign of bloodletting. The tongue was synonymous with the sacrificial knife and in many Mesoamerican images a protruding tongue was shaped like a highly decorative knife blade.
2001 Feline side: NASA/JPL (E03-00824)
Note: the crown , the square shaped head, the rectangular, squinting eye, the muzzle, and short zig-zag shaped mane (or beard). Also note the four little "fangs" at the top and bottom of the flailing tongue.
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18 years 3 months ago #9060
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Zip Monster</i>
<br />Moving on to the feline aspects of the Cydonia Face. I will demonstrate how the feline features are readily apparent without the aid of mirroring.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">How is your interpretation any different than the subjective interpretations being argued for other features in the other active topics? I've seen claims the Cydonia Face looks like the Sphinx or like Carl Sagan too. Of what relevance are such subjective impressions to advancing knowledge?
Specifically, the literalistic interpretation of the Face mesa is that a melt flow emanated from the large crater in the lower eastern postion of the mesa, coating much of the east side and partially filling the eye socket. The blast from the crater-forming impact slightly displaced the mouth feature on the east side. What evidence exists that the Face was not perfectly symmetric prior to this impact? -|Tom|-
<br />Moving on to the feline aspects of the Cydonia Face. I will demonstrate how the feline features are readily apparent without the aid of mirroring.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">How is your interpretation any different than the subjective interpretations being argued for other features in the other active topics? I've seen claims the Cydonia Face looks like the Sphinx or like Carl Sagan too. Of what relevance are such subjective impressions to advancing knowledge?
Specifically, the literalistic interpretation of the Face mesa is that a melt flow emanated from the large crater in the lower eastern postion of the mesa, coating much of the east side and partially filling the eye socket. The blast from the crater-forming impact slightly displaced the mouth feature on the east side. What evidence exists that the Face was not perfectly symmetric prior to this impact? -|Tom|-
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18 years 3 months ago #9111
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Here is The Cydonia Institute's criteria for an acceptable geoglyphic face:
1.) Prior Prediction: The candidate must adhere to the aesthetic standards of a previously accepted geoglyph, such as the Cydonia Face, which exhibits a composite design.
2.) Context: The candidate must maintain a direct correlation between adjoining geoglyphs, such as sharing a common theme or mythological connection.
3.) Relationship: The candidate must share common iconographic elements with known or accepted geoglyphs, such as style, motif and symbolism.
4.) Facial Features: The candidate must exhibit identifiable features in the proper orientation, such as an eye, nose, ear, and mouth (including common ornamentation).
BTW, The Cydonia Institute has found and identified over 2 dozen candidates within the Cydonia Complex that pass this set of standards with "flying colors"!
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1.) Prior Prediction: The candidate must adhere to the aesthetic standards of a previously accepted geoglyph, such as the Cydonia Face, which exhibits a composite design.
2.) Context: The candidate must maintain a direct correlation between adjoining geoglyphs, such as sharing a common theme or mythological connection.
3.) Relationship: The candidate must share common iconographic elements with known or accepted geoglyphs, such as style, motif and symbolism.
4.) Facial Features: The candidate must exhibit identifiable features in the proper orientation, such as an eye, nose, ear, and mouth (including common ornamentation).
BTW, The Cydonia Institute has found and identified over 2 dozen candidates within the Cydonia Complex that pass this set of standards with "flying colors"!
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