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10 years 2 weeks ago #22484
by rderosa
Replied by rderosa on topic Reply from Richard DeRosa
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Marsevidence01</i>
<br />For sometime now, I have been wondering whether or not to post some images of powerful evidence, which I am confident could turn the tide. I have measured the responses here asking should I post or not. My decision...no way, not here, the ridicule is too thick and distasteful. It's my call and you have made that decision for me.
Malcolm Scott
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote"> I agree that this thread is not really the place to post then since it's about pareidolia, and your claim is that yours aren't pareidolia. So there's really no good reason to post them on this topic.
If by "here" you mean the Artificial Structures Forum, in general, well it's certainly up to you. It depends on how sure you are that you're seeing something meaningful or not, and how convinced you are that you can convince others.
Personally, I haven't seen anything at all in your videos and images that would lead one to believe it's art, or the product of an intelligent life. I just see extremely rich and complex Martian Terrain, just like the scientists at the University of Arizona.
By the way, I don't remember anyone ridiculing you.
rd
<br />For sometime now, I have been wondering whether or not to post some images of powerful evidence, which I am confident could turn the tide. I have measured the responses here asking should I post or not. My decision...no way, not here, the ridicule is too thick and distasteful. It's my call and you have made that decision for me.
Malcolm Scott
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote"> I agree that this thread is not really the place to post then since it's about pareidolia, and your claim is that yours aren't pareidolia. So there's really no good reason to post them on this topic.
If by "here" you mean the Artificial Structures Forum, in general, well it's certainly up to you. It depends on how sure you are that you're seeing something meaningful or not, and how convinced you are that you can convince others.
Personally, I haven't seen anything at all in your videos and images that would lead one to believe it's art, or the product of an intelligent life. I just see extremely rich and complex Martian Terrain, just like the scientists at the University of Arizona.
By the way, I don't remember anyone ridiculing you.
rd
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10 years 2 weeks ago #22485
by Larry Burford
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Just remember Malcolm, you are always welcome to show us your latest stuff at any time. Tell us what it is, and we will take that to mean that you are telling us what you think it is.
We will most likely tell you what WE think it is.
And one day, <u>we might agree</u>.
It is possible.
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You seem to be so sure. Believers always are.
We seem to be so skeptical. Skeptics always are.
You have your reasons. We have our reasons. We have discussed them, and most likely will continue to do so. Perhaps one day something important will come out of our efforts?
It's not personal, from our perspective. It's exploration of the unknown.
As long as we all follow Rule #1 things will work out.
We will most likely tell you what WE think it is.
And one day, <u>we might agree</u>.
It is possible.
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You seem to be so sure. Believers always are.
We seem to be so skeptical. Skeptics always are.
You have your reasons. We have our reasons. We have discussed them, and most likely will continue to do so. Perhaps one day something important will come out of our efforts?
It's not personal, from our perspective. It's exploration of the unknown.
As long as we all follow Rule #1 things will work out.
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10 years 2 weeks ago #22742
by Marsevidence01
Replied by Marsevidence01 on topic Reply from Malcolm Scott
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Larry Burford</i>
<br />Just remember Malcolm, you are always welcome to show us your latest stuff at any time. Tell us what it is, and we will take that to mean that you are telling us what you think it is.
We will most likely tell you what WE think it is.
And one day, <u>we might agree</u>.
It is possible.
***
You seem to be so sure. Believers always are.
We seem to be so skeptical. Skeptics always are.
You have your reasons. We have our reasons. We have discussed them, and most likely will continue to do so. Perhaps one day something important will come out of our efforts?
It's not personal, from our perspective. It's exploration of the unknown.
As long as we all follow Rule #1 things will work out.
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People are not stupid. They believe things for reasons. The last way for skeptics to get the attention of bright, curious, intelligent people is to belittle or condescend or to show arrogance toward their beliefs.
- Carl Sagan
Malcolm Scott
<br />Just remember Malcolm, you are always welcome to show us your latest stuff at any time. Tell us what it is, and we will take that to mean that you are telling us what you think it is.
We will most likely tell you what WE think it is.
And one day, <u>we might agree</u>.
It is possible.
***
You seem to be so sure. Believers always are.
We seem to be so skeptical. Skeptics always are.
You have your reasons. We have our reasons. We have discussed them, and most likely will continue to do so. Perhaps one day something important will come out of our efforts?
It's not personal, from our perspective. It's exploration of the unknown.
As long as we all follow Rule #1 things will work out.
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People are not stupid. They believe things for reasons. The last way for skeptics to get the attention of bright, curious, intelligent people is to belittle or condescend or to show arrogance toward their beliefs.
- Carl Sagan
Malcolm Scott
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10 years 2 weeks ago #22486
by rderosa
Replied by rderosa on topic Reply from Richard DeRosa
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Marsevidence01</i>
<br />People are not stupid. They believe things for reasons. The last way for skeptics to get the attention of bright, curious, intelligent people is to belittle or condescend or to show arrogance toward their beliefs.
- Carl Sagan
Malcolm Scott
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote"> You have no idea how nice we're being to you. We're literally bending over backwards to give you a chance to post something meaningful. Believe it or not, we wish you <b>were </b> posting proof of life on Mars.
But sadly, you're not.
rd
<br />People are not stupid. They believe things for reasons. The last way for skeptics to get the attention of bright, curious, intelligent people is to belittle or condescend or to show arrogance toward their beliefs.
- Carl Sagan
Malcolm Scott
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote"> You have no idea how nice we're being to you. We're literally bending over backwards to give you a chance to post something meaningful. Believe it or not, we wish you <b>were </b> posting proof of life on Mars.
But sadly, you're not.
rd
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10 years 2 weeks ago #22487
by Larry Burford
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10 years 2 weeks ago #23262
by Larry Burford
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<b>[marsevidence01] "People are not stupid."</b>
Some of them are.
Care to make any other obviously wrong assertions?
<b>[marsevidence01] "They believe things for reasons."</b>
Good reasons and bad reasons. Yawn
<b>[marsevidence01] "The last way for skeptics to get the attention of bright, curious, intelligent people is to belittle or condescend or to show arrogance toward their beliefs."</b>
Why would this get the attention of smart people? At this website all members are allowed to attack (belittle and condescend) any "message".
But as soon as any member attacks (belittles or condescends) a *messenger* they are at risk of being smitted by the Moderator God.
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Messages are fair game. 24/7/365, IOW it is open season.
Messengers are a protected species. Tread with caution.
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If you have a problem with this policy, you might consider going somewhere else. Perhaps somewhere that is not interested in doing real science that does not always sit well with the mainstream? Good luck.
Some of them are.
Care to make any other obviously wrong assertions?
<b>[marsevidence01] "They believe things for reasons."</b>
Good reasons and bad reasons. Yawn
<b>[marsevidence01] "The last way for skeptics to get the attention of bright, curious, intelligent people is to belittle or condescend or to show arrogance toward their beliefs."</b>
Why would this get the attention of smart people? At this website all members are allowed to attack (belittle and condescend) any "message".
But as soon as any member attacks (belittles or condescends) a *messenger* they are at risk of being smitted by the Moderator God.
***
Messages are fair game. 24/7/365, IOW it is open season.
Messengers are a protected species. Tread with caution.
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If you have a problem with this policy, you might consider going somewhere else. Perhaps somewhere that is not interested in doing real science that does not always sit well with the mainstream? Good luck.
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