- Thank you received: 0
Explosion From Nowhere
- tvanflandern
- Topic Author
- Offline
- Platinum Member
Less
More
16 years 10 months ago #19375
by tvanflandern
Reply from Tom Van Flandern was created by tvanflandern
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by davidjinks</i>
<br />I'm curious how this event might fit into Dr. Van Flandern's Meta Model. Any comments?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">The Meta Model predicts a class of highly collapsed, supermassive stars with high redshift. One class of quasars seems to meet this description.
If that is correct, it would be possible for such objects to form outside galaxies. But more likely, they would escape from galaxies. In the case in question, if the source was a close, low-redshift galaxy, it would have been ignored as a possible parent to a high-redshift object. Remember, if a nearby galaxy ejects an object, the object can still be close to its parent galaxy even though its angular distance might be a degree or two. -|Tom|-
<br />I'm curious how this event might fit into Dr. Van Flandern's Meta Model. Any comments?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">The Meta Model predicts a class of highly collapsed, supermassive stars with high redshift. One class of quasars seems to meet this description.
If that is correct, it would be possible for such objects to form outside galaxies. But more likely, they would escape from galaxies. In the case in question, if the source was a close, low-redshift galaxy, it would have been ignored as a possible parent to a high-redshift object. Remember, if a nearby galaxy ejects an object, the object can still be close to its parent galaxy even though its angular distance might be a degree or two. -|Tom|-
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
16 years 10 months ago #19827
by Jim
Replied by Jim on topic Reply from
The data on GRBs is not focused at a pin point in 3D space-its not focused in 2D space better than several seconds of arc. So, it seems to me the data does not indicate the GRBs are at a great distance. Its only modeling that causes anyone to believe they are at a great distance.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
16 years 10 months ago #19836
by JMB
Replied by JMB on topic Reply from Jacques Moret-Bailly
An object given by the theory was never observed because it may be considered as a quasar: it is an accreting neutron star.
The accretion of a cloud of hydrogen heats the surface to a very high temperature, and surrounding hydrogen, heated, atomic, excited, produces, by CREIL effect, a high redshift and a Lyman forest.
The heating may extend far, so that a CREIL effect may work for farther objects which appear close to the quasar, get a too large, but lower redshift.
The accretion of a cloud of hydrogen heats the surface to a very high temperature, and surrounding hydrogen, heated, atomic, excited, produces, by CREIL effect, a high redshift and a Lyman forest.
The heating may extend far, so that a CREIL effect may work for farther objects which appear close to the quasar, get a too large, but lower redshift.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Time to create page: 0.287 seconds