Big Bang and Alternatives

If matter is homogeneously distributed at the largest scale in an infinite, boundless universe, that would also account for gravity being equal in all directions---even if gravity did follow the inverse square rule to infinity.

However, as I explained in detail on Oct 3: The MM answer for galaxies not all clumping together is the limited range of gravity---becoming inverse cube beyond 6,000 ly. Within some range of distances, this could have nearly the same effect as a hypothetical unknown force, a "Plank Variable" or even dark matter. Unless two theories are mathematically equivalent to one another, the correspondence must break down at some distance from Earth. More precise and reliable measurements are needed to narrow the field of competing theories. We need to know, not only the distances of galaxies, but their velocities and accelerations. While we wait and hope for better data, we should concentrate on how the competing theories differ mathematically in predicting future observations.

Dear PhilJ, Thanks for the advice. John Hunter.

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If BB is not a right answer, then what is preventing galaxies from getting closer each other under effect of gavity ?
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What gravity? In a homogeneous universe the mass distribution is the same in all directions and the force of gravity cancels to zero overall.

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Hi Thomas,

It makes sense. However, according to Relativity, there is something called Rs = 2GM/cc.

I call Z is a sphere zone in the universe, and mass M of Z satisfies 2GM/cc &gt; R. R is radius of the zone. According to the formula, material in Z will be shrinked into a black hole.

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If BB is not a right answer, then what is preventing galaxies from getting closer each other under effect of gavity ?
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What gravity? In a homogeneous universe the mass distribution is the same in all directions and the force of gravity cancels to zero overall.

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Hi Thomas,

It makes sense. However, according to Relativity, there is something called Rs = 2GM/cc.

I call Z is a sphere zone in the universe, and mass M of Z satisfies 2GM/cc &gt; R. R is radius of the zone. According to the formula, material in Z will be shrinked into a black hole.
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The existence (or not) of black holes besides, this would be due to local deviations from the overall homogeneity of the matter density and has as such nothing to do with the average gravitational force in the universe (which should be zero if it is homogeneous).

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Observations show us that collision of galaxies is very common and it is part of the recycling process.

The forces that are acting have their part.

Gravity and electromagnetic forces play a part in large and small objects.

Although the Big Bang is widely accepted it does not make it right.

The Big Bang and the red shift may go hand in hand and dance to the same music. It is short of being correct.See and other links
www.plasmaphysics.org.uk/research/redshift.htm

The universe as a whole number cannot expand. What ever happens to its parts is another discussion. Yes some parts are expanding but other parts are contracting.

The impact of gravity is determined by its distance to the object and therfore cannot be zero in a homogeneous universe.

Deep field images show existing galaxies old and new at different stages of the recycling process.The statement that these objects must have been about 750,000 years old from the start is a statement trying to fit The Big Bang theory into the picture.

The statement:"Our universe is not infinite in size or dimension, but most likely it always existed as a homogenous structure of a greater multi-dimensional universe." Is wrong
Oservations show us in the visible universe that matter is not evenly distributed.See link
www.anzwers.org/free/universe/universe.html
Than again this relies on the redshift and so how accurate is it.

Our universe is infinite although it seems to be a homogeneous structure it is in chaos. As for multi dimensions there is no evidence as such.

One needs to build the theory from the basic building blocks and their interactions.









Harry