Galaxy Distribution

Thanks for the shiny new change of subject. I am of the opinion that the universe has always existed. We observe recent events in a never ending dance of huge objects. Our problems is the type of telescopy we use. We cannot continue to use light to observe distant objects. In the MM, gravity is distorting the LCM and therefore the way light travels. If we learn to use gravity as our basis for telescopy our range of vision will increase by 9 orders of magnitude (the difference between light speed and gravity speed). Only then can we be more prepared to put together a sliver of our piece of puzzle. Mark

Mark,

I agree that light is not going to be nearly as helpful in the future as it has been so far. But gravitational force as a substitute has its own problems.

Just as graviton scattering limits the range of the force of gravity, it will limit the range over which we can use gravitational force for things like communication and imaging. 5K to 10K lightyears, perhaps a little more (2X?, 10X?) with advanced signal processing. Still not very far.

Communication will be less impacted than imaging. We can always set up relay stations (to places we have already been). Interplanetary (and later intergalactic) cell phones, so to speak.

Big Big Bummer,
LB

(Tom, please tell me I;m wrong about this ...)

If the BB is disproved then the distances that objects in space are from us may be closer than the current models predict. Propulsion based on gravity my allow relays and forward deployed light telescopes or gravity telescopes to be used in and out of this galaxy. Just a thought, mark

I think gravity-based communication would require the construction of enormous gravity lenses---many times more massive than our galaxy. To place the lenses far enough apart for intergalactic relays would involve first getting there. I wouldn't envy the poor sap responsible for presenting either proposal to a congressional budget subcommittee. Just getting across the galaxy in the lifetime of the traveller would involve converting half of the moon to antimatter and taking all of the moon along for fuel. Meanwhile, those subcommittee members would become fissils buried under miles of rock.