<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=2 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Atko's post at the top of this thread has two links.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>Yes, but proposed for discussion was the newer one which isn't authored by Podkletnov. It appears there are people who aren't afraid of tarnishing their names in association with Podkletnov's works <- that fact of itself deserves some attention, IMO. (there are some hints at superluminality, btw)