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21 years 3 months ago #6212 by Mac
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Simon,

The general view is that the photon has no rest or inertial mass. In theory testing has only proven that such mass must be less than E-68kg. But most accept it as being actually "0".

If it is indeed "0" then from F = m/a or a = F/m then a = F/0 = Infinite acceleration.

From my view in UniKEF, a term called "q" of matter (matter being condensed energy in time and space, holds that what we see as an objects dimension (i.e. - a 10 foot distance through water, is actully 13.333333 feet of space condensed down and hence the photon traveling through such medium is still going the same distance in the same time or no change in speed). Photons traverse through water from our perspective at 0.75c. 1/0.75 = 1.33333.

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21 years 3 months ago #6303 by Jim
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Mac, You say tests have proven photons have a mass less than a tiny bit. Can you post data about these tests? thanks

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21 years 3 months ago #6214 by Simon
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Hi Mac

Thanks for that - the q interpretation of space-time is interesting.

So where do you rekon the dividing line between when you can apply newtonian dynamics such as F=ma to quantum particles and when you can't ? Say like when sunshine causes a force on a "solar sail" when in a vacuum, where is the force coming from there, what aspects of the photons energy has been converted into force ?

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21 years 3 months ago #6215 by Jim
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Drawing a line between F=ma and quantum particles is like drawing a line between a master cook and mud pies.

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21 years 3 months ago #6442 by Simon
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Yes - thats what I thought - like writing a review of a book using dominos ???

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21 years 3 months ago #6304 by Mac
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=2 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote><b>Hi Mac

Thanks for that - the q interpretation of space-time is interesting.

So where do you rekon the dividing line between when you can apply newtonian dynamics such as F=ma to quantum particles and when you can't ? Say like when sunshine causes a force on a "solar sail" when in a vacuum, where is the force coming from there, what aspects of the photons energy has been converted into force ?

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Your point is a good one. I have always felt that was indicative of some immeasureable inertial mass but if that is true then other theories are in trouble since they require zero mass.





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