The entropy of systems

That's pretty funny. I'll just wait over here by the bar. Let me know when you have an answer.

GD, equilibrium is not magic!!!
Look at your ankle.
Is it swelling?
Perhaps not, observe a system in equilibrium. Fluids are right now in equilibrium between your cells, extracellular fluid and blood vessels. IF this system goes out of whack then wham, a swollen ankle.
Energy is not mystic... sure we don't claim to know everything but remember to use the scientific method.
Many folks are quick to throw around the word theory when they mean idea. A theory is the product of research, observation, hypothesizing, concluding, reviewing, retesting, rehypothesizing, etc. We sum this large previous sentence with one word

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Science.
Science differs from magic because plausible ideas are tested. Equilibrium is just an observation of when a system that has been defined comes into a balance. Is that balance permanent? Not necessarilly. Stable? Maybe maybe not.
The topic of this super-long thread is the entropy of systems. Does it exist? TO the best of scientific knowledge yes. Unless you have a specific test that I can repeat in my lab that nullifies the second law of thermodynamics, then drop it.
Mark

Here is the definition:

2nd law of thermodynamics: Physicist Lord Kelvin stated it technically as follows: "There is no natural process the only result of which is to cool a heat reservoir and do external work." In more understandable terms, this law observes the fact that the useable energy in the universe is becoming less and less. Ultimately there would be no available energy left. Stemming from this fact we find that the most probable state for any natural system is one of disorder. All natural systems degenerate when left to themselves.

Where do you see equilibrium here ?

What do you not understand?

For the same reason your ankles are closer to the ground than your heads, and that fermentation is made possible to trouble your logic,
is the reason why systems are not in equilibrium.

Hmmm. Now that I think about it equilibrium is also not mentioned in Ohm's Law.

So there you have it folks. There really is no such thing as equilibrium.

Have a look at this partial definition of entropy taken from the "Wikipedia" site:

"Entropy and cosmology
We have previously mentioned that the universe may be considered an isolated system. As such, it may be subject to the Second Law of Thermodynamics, so that its total entropy is constantly increasing. It has been speculated that the universe is fated to a heat death in which all the energy ends up as a homogeneous distribution of thermal energy, so that no more work can be extracted from any source.
If the universe can be considered to have increasing entropy, then, as Roger Penrose has pointed out, an important role in the disordering process is played by gravity, which causes dispersed matter to accumulate into stars, which collapse eventually into black holes. Jacob Bekenstein and Stephen Hawking have shown that black holes have the maximum possible entropy of any object of equal size. This makes them likely end points of all entropy-increasing processes."

Do you see equilibrium here?

Is this starting to tickle your neuron cells, or do I have to continue for another two years?

GD,

You would not be alive with out equilibrium. A galaxy would fly apart if not for the Black Hole at the center, and again I see equilibrium in the balance between forces of centripital and centrifugal outward and inward pressures which has nothing at all to do with entropy but more to do with the interactions of time waves and energy cycling. What a joke heat death, the big crunch, when the universe is suddenly found to be expanding faster now then in the past. Energy cannot be destroyed, period. So, looks like you have a long road ahead if you intend on proping up a dead theory that originated from a premise that the universe was formed from a big bang and will end in some cosmic crunch, or chaos in a zero energy state. Even if this universe did crunch which I think is highly unlikely, would the total energy just disappear into one big black hole, and would there not be equilibrium????? Well, guess what black holes interact as a time valve with antimatter jets. Compression is released back into reverse time. So, tell me now where is this so called entropy? Theoretical chaos in any event would always organize back into time domains with polarity because of the FTL interactions of forward and reverse time waves. Universe equals a negative entropic system that because of a duality of time automatically regenerates circulations into rotational organizations of energetics.

How do you explain FREE ENERGY DEVICES, or FRACTIONAL GROUND STATES OF HYDROGEN that release tremendous amounts of energy that apparently defies known physics? GD, your kicking a dead horse and that is okay.

The energetics in our universe are cycling at extreme speeds, mass is a subset and condensate of these FTL frequencies. You and the rest of the universe would not exist if it were not for equilibrium.

John