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'Elastivity' of graviton collisions
21 years 10 months ago #4037
by dholeman
Replied by dholeman on topic Reply from Don Holeman
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... closed loop power source...loop recycles via the Chiral Condensate
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Ignore for now the concepts involved in heat engines and power generating stations (and I don't have any idea what a chiral condensate might be). In fact, the proposed PM machines that I've seen discussed which might exploit gravitons are strictly mechanical. More importantly though, at the conceptual level you don't need to consider such nuts and bolts, just basic physics.
From a development standpoint the first step is to prove the existance of gravitons and elysons - and the biggest hurdle is that nobody is looking.
My advice is to read Pushing Gravity and Dark Matter.
Best,
Don
... closed loop power source...loop recycles via the Chiral Condensate
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Ignore for now the concepts involved in heat engines and power generating stations (and I don't have any idea what a chiral condensate might be). In fact, the proposed PM machines that I've seen discussed which might exploit gravitons are strictly mechanical. More importantly though, at the conceptual level you don't need to consider such nuts and bolts, just basic physics.
From a development standpoint the first step is to prove the existance of gravitons and elysons - and the biggest hurdle is that nobody is looking.
My advice is to read Pushing Gravity and Dark Matter.
Best,
Don
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21 years 10 months ago #3870
by Mac
Replied by Mac on topic Reply from Dan McCoin
Don,
Thanks. I intend to get "Pushing Gravity". I have believed in that view all my adult life but it seems only now is it getting attention.
FYI: The Chiral Condensate is the proposed source of virtual particle pairs popping into and out of existance in the "Voids" or "Vacuum" or space. What we once thought as empty seems to be actually a super solid but in a form not yet understood.
The energy and density numbers being kicked around are incredible.
i.e. 1e105/cm^3 (energy units - forgot what they were) but that turns into more mass per cm^3 than is now known in the current universe per cm^3.
Mac
Thanks. I intend to get "Pushing Gravity". I have believed in that view all my adult life but it seems only now is it getting attention.
FYI: The Chiral Condensate is the proposed source of virtual particle pairs popping into and out of existance in the "Voids" or "Vacuum" or space. What we once thought as empty seems to be actually a super solid but in a form not yet understood.
The energy and density numbers being kicked around are incredible.
i.e. 1e105/cm^3 (energy units - forgot what they were) but that turns into more mass per cm^3 than is now known in the current universe per cm^3.
Mac
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21 years 10 months ago #4039
by n/a3
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mac...i agree with you..i was supporting your comments about PM...
sorry for not being specific about it...
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sorry for not being specific about it...
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21 years 10 months ago #3264
by Mac
Replied by Mac on topic Reply from Dan McCoin
Great. I'm glad that was your meaning. Sorry I misread your post.
Mac
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21 years 10 months ago #3267
by n/a3
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This illustrates a big difference between the standard model and the Meta Model: net entropy of the universe is zero.
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Loschmidt's paradox.... what you are doing is a mathematical model for irreversibility while everyone knows irreversible processes occur all over the place...essentially, since in the kinetic energy equation v and -v don't matter... v^2/2 is the same regardless of the sign.... your planets may explode from graviton collisions in -dt but magically re-assembles in +dt due to reversibility in the equations of motion...
there is no such thing as zero net entropy change...even when you heat water from ice you increse entropy...
but if you're talking about an infinite universe then why care about entropy change? there is plenty of room for disorder to hide while your own planet goes to tiny molecules...
as i said before....every call to the infinite is an attempt to hide something...in this case the very simple fact that when you burn a 10 dollar bill there it goes...no lunch...unless no entropy change...and thre it comes again...
where is david coperfield?
This illustrates a big difference between the standard model and the Meta Model: net entropy of the universe is zero.
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Loschmidt's paradox.... what you are doing is a mathematical model for irreversibility while everyone knows irreversible processes occur all over the place...essentially, since in the kinetic energy equation v and -v don't matter... v^2/2 is the same regardless of the sign.... your planets may explode from graviton collisions in -dt but magically re-assembles in +dt due to reversibility in the equations of motion...
there is no such thing as zero net entropy change...even when you heat water from ice you increse entropy...
but if you're talking about an infinite universe then why care about entropy change? there is plenty of room for disorder to hide while your own planet goes to tiny molecules...
as i said before....every call to the infinite is an attempt to hide something...in this case the very simple fact that when you burn a 10 dollar bill there it goes...no lunch...unless no entropy change...and thre it comes again...
where is david coperfield?
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21 years 10 months ago #3274
by AgoraBasta
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=2 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>[mark]...unless heat is converted back to kinetic energy...hard to see how something like that can be...<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>That's easy, actually, remember steam engine?
Seriously, though, in any hot system there's random walk, so there are low frequency modes in pressure spectrum. Observed on small enough scale, those modes lead to currents, those currents are essentially kinetic energy. As long as there's a mechanism to shift phonons down the freq and store them there - cycle might be closed...
Seriously, though, in any hot system there's random walk, so there are low frequency modes in pressure spectrum. Observed on small enough scale, those modes lead to currents, those currents are essentially kinetic energy. As long as there's a mechanism to shift phonons down the freq and store them there - cycle might be closed...
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