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12 years 9 months ago #24393
by Joe Keller
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Pole shift imminent?
The booms I heard at sunset in December, the often-unexplained humming sounds increasingly reported at many places in the world, and now the other strange sounds and vibrations (e.g. setting off car alarms in Germany) suddenly reported worldwide (or presumably occurring worldwide but mainly reported in the places where internet access is common): these could indicate Earth changes preparing for pole shift. Not from a political, but from a biological perpective, how would humanity react?
My purpose isn't to say that Candidate A is good or Country X is bad. Biology is part of science and the human species is part of biology. The absence of cats at Pompeii (though tame cats had been commonplace in Greco-Roman civilization for centuries) tells us that cats sensed the impending volcanic eruption: they smelled or heard or felt or otherwise sensed something that caused them to flee. Likewise the response of humans, or at least of some humans, might tell us something about impending Earth changes.
It's not likely that the readers of the Metaresearch messageboard are the only people who think about this. The governments of this world harbor individuals who are more incisive than the average professor, or more incisive than the average professor seems to be. Elements within major governments think about this. If they really thought that major Earth changes were imminent, there would be increasing competition for resources and jockeying for position, likely ending in a World War just before the Earth changes struck. Some benign elements would work urgently toward "world government", hoping to "beat the deadline" so humanity could "face this together" without "fighting among ourselves". Yet there is a strong thread in the thinking of even the most benign elites, that "the masses can't handle the truth", "we have to avoid panic". So secrecy, censorship, distraction and disinformation would happen, not necessarily from evil motives.
Regarding the World War outcome, it seems significant that the oldest and most famous U. S. aircraft carrier, the "Enterprise", now is being sent into the Persian Gulf danger zone only a year before its scheduled decommissioning. Maybe, if war is thought to be inevitable, it's militarily best to let them sink the oldest one, and propagandistically best to let them sink the one with the most famous name.
Kepler thought astrological influences somehow were real; in any case they are real to some people because those people think they are real. Mars will be at opposition March 3 (minimum Sun-Mars-Earth angle) and its nearest approach to Earth March 5. Mars' conjunction with the full moon will be March 8, and in addition the moon lies on the equator then.
The booms I heard at sunset in December, the often-unexplained humming sounds increasingly reported at many places in the world, and now the other strange sounds and vibrations (e.g. setting off car alarms in Germany) suddenly reported worldwide (or presumably occurring worldwide but mainly reported in the places where internet access is common): these could indicate Earth changes preparing for pole shift. Not from a political, but from a biological perpective, how would humanity react?
My purpose isn't to say that Candidate A is good or Country X is bad. Biology is part of science and the human species is part of biology. The absence of cats at Pompeii (though tame cats had been commonplace in Greco-Roman civilization for centuries) tells us that cats sensed the impending volcanic eruption: they smelled or heard or felt or otherwise sensed something that caused them to flee. Likewise the response of humans, or at least of some humans, might tell us something about impending Earth changes.
It's not likely that the readers of the Metaresearch messageboard are the only people who think about this. The governments of this world harbor individuals who are more incisive than the average professor, or more incisive than the average professor seems to be. Elements within major governments think about this. If they really thought that major Earth changes were imminent, there would be increasing competition for resources and jockeying for position, likely ending in a World War just before the Earth changes struck. Some benign elements would work urgently toward "world government", hoping to "beat the deadline" so humanity could "face this together" without "fighting among ourselves". Yet there is a strong thread in the thinking of even the most benign elites, that "the masses can't handle the truth", "we have to avoid panic". So secrecy, censorship, distraction and disinformation would happen, not necessarily from evil motives.
Regarding the World War outcome, it seems significant that the oldest and most famous U. S. aircraft carrier, the "Enterprise", now is being sent into the Persian Gulf danger zone only a year before its scheduled decommissioning. Maybe, if war is thought to be inevitable, it's militarily best to let them sink the oldest one, and propagandistically best to let them sink the one with the most famous name.
Kepler thought astrological influences somehow were real; in any case they are real to some people because those people think they are real. Mars will be at opposition March 3 (minimum Sun-Mars-Earth angle) and its nearest approach to Earth March 5. Mars' conjunction with the full moon will be March 8, and in addition the moon lies on the equator then.
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12 years 9 months ago #11064
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Joe Keller</i>
<br />Cause of Ice Ages: geographic pole wander
(and for at least the last 4500 years, because the Great Pyramid is only about 6 arcminutes off of true north in its alignment), doesn't mean it always was.
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Hmmm ... Joe, there seems to be a significant number of non-egyptologists who believe that the Great Pyramid is considerably older than 4,500 years old, so maybe the pole has been stable for longer than that too.
<br />Cause of Ice Ages: geographic pole wander
(and for at least the last 4500 years, because the Great Pyramid is only about 6 arcminutes off of true north in its alignment), doesn't mean it always was.
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Hmmm ... Joe, there seems to be a significant number of non-egyptologists who believe that the Great Pyramid is considerably older than 4,500 years old, so maybe the pole has been stable for longer than that too.
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by shando</i>
<br />...non-egyptologists who believe that the Great Pyramid is considerably older than 4,500 years old, so maybe the pole has been stable for longer than that too.
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Thanks for mentioning this. The other Giza pyramids are oriented NSEW with accuracy similar to the Great Pyramid, but maybe they simply copied its orientation. Even if the Great Pyramid is 4500 y. o. (as mainstream Egyptologists think) its orientation might have been copied from earlier structures or markers.
I mentioned George Darwin (a son of Charles Darwin) in my earlier post. Reading today in Munk & MacDonald, "The Rotation of the Earth" (Cambridge Univ. Press, 1960) I learned that George Darwin was well aware of the solid vs. plastic Earth question, regarding the equatorial bulge, and made the groundbreaking calculations about that.
Munk & MacDonald, citing a 1955 paper by Bondi & Gold, say that the difference in period between the actual (tiny) 420-day "Chandler wobble" and the 300-day theoretical Eulerian wobble for an absolutely solid Earth, affords an estimate of Earth's "plasticity", i.e. Play-Dough quality. This estimated value of the plasticity then affords an estimate that Earth's pole should shift to the mid-Pacific ocean, and the equatorial bulge shift appropriately, in a mere 100,000 years. (A mid-Pacific pole would be dynamically favored because then Asia and the Americas would be generally nearer the equatorial bulge.)
This 100,000 year timescale for about a 90 degree shift, is almost as fast as needed to explain the pole shifts that Hapgood and others hypothesized for the Pleistocene Ice Ages. Whatever is presently preventing that shift of the pole to the mid-Pacific, might cease to operate during times of pole shift.
<br />...non-egyptologists who believe that the Great Pyramid is considerably older than 4,500 years old, so maybe the pole has been stable for longer than that too.
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Thanks for mentioning this. The other Giza pyramids are oriented NSEW with accuracy similar to the Great Pyramid, but maybe they simply copied its orientation. Even if the Great Pyramid is 4500 y. o. (as mainstream Egyptologists think) its orientation might have been copied from earlier structures or markers.
I mentioned George Darwin (a son of Charles Darwin) in my earlier post. Reading today in Munk & MacDonald, "The Rotation of the Earth" (Cambridge Univ. Press, 1960) I learned that George Darwin was well aware of the solid vs. plastic Earth question, regarding the equatorial bulge, and made the groundbreaking calculations about that.
Munk & MacDonald, citing a 1955 paper by Bondi & Gold, say that the difference in period between the actual (tiny) 420-day "Chandler wobble" and the 300-day theoretical Eulerian wobble for an absolutely solid Earth, affords an estimate of Earth's "plasticity", i.e. Play-Dough quality. This estimated value of the plasticity then affords an estimate that Earth's pole should shift to the mid-Pacific ocean, and the equatorial bulge shift appropriately, in a mere 100,000 years. (A mid-Pacific pole would be dynamically favored because then Asia and the Americas would be generally nearer the equatorial bulge.)
This 100,000 year timescale for about a 90 degree shift, is almost as fast as needed to explain the pole shifts that Hapgood and others hypothesized for the Pleistocene Ice Ages. Whatever is presently preventing that shift of the pole to the mid-Pacific, might cease to operate during times of pole shift.
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12 years 9 months ago #24395
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Dec 13, 2012: maximum torque New Moon
The monthly minimum distance of Luna from Earth's center, occurs at 23h GMT, Dec. 12, 2012. This perigee, 357,100 km, is unusually close, because it occurs near a New Moon and near Earth's perihelion. The New Moon (minimum angle Sun-Luna-Earth) is at 08h GMT Dec. 13, only 9 hours later. This coincidence of factors - New Moon, perigee, perihelion - makes the tides especially strong.
There is another coincident factor: The Sun is near its greatest distance from the equator, because Dec. 13 is only 8 days before the solstice. Luna's monthly minimum declination (using either J2000 coords or equinox of date) is -20.9deg, 04h GMT Dec. 13. So, not only is the tide near its maximum possible strength; the torque on Earth's equatorial bulge is near its maximum possible strength.
The monthly minimum distance of Luna from Earth's center, occurs at 23h GMT, Dec. 12, 2012. This perigee, 357,100 km, is unusually close, because it occurs near a New Moon and near Earth's perihelion. The New Moon (minimum angle Sun-Luna-Earth) is at 08h GMT Dec. 13, only 9 hours later. This coincidence of factors - New Moon, perigee, perihelion - makes the tides especially strong.
There is another coincident factor: The Sun is near its greatest distance from the equator, because Dec. 13 is only 8 days before the solstice. Luna's monthly minimum declination (using either J2000 coords or equinox of date) is -20.9deg, 04h GMT Dec. 13. So, not only is the tide near its maximum possible strength; the torque on Earth's equatorial bulge is near its maximum possible strength.
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Two more astronomical correlations of the winter solstice, 2012
Not only is there a transit of Venus as seen from Earth, in June 2012, there is also a transit of Mercury as seen from Venus, maximum at 08h GMT Dec. 18, 2012. The angle between the orbits of Mercury and Venus (found by applying a plane trigonometry approximation to the spherical problem of finding it from their orbital elements) is 4.32deg. At the time of the transit, the difference in their heliocentric ecliptic latitudes is only 0.153deg, which closeness happens on average only about once in 4.32/0.153*pi/2 = 44 Mercury-Venus conjunctions. The Sun-Venus-Mercury angle is about 0.22deg < 0.37 needed for a transit.
Also, there is a conjunction of Luna and Uranus, nearest approach in angular separation and in ecliptic longitude, 17h GMT Dec. 20. These bodies will be near the vernal equinox point:
Luna RA, Decl = 2.8, +5.6
Uranus " = 4.4, +1.1
The importance of this conjunction is due to several phenomena mentioned in my earlier posts:
1. The four asteroids with the special ~5.14hr rotation period, and Uranus, align with the Sun and with each other near this upcoming winter solstice.
2. The moons and rings of Uranus show many resonances with that 5.14hr period (as do the moons of Mars and to much less extent, those of Jupiter and Saturn).
3. Several moons of Uranus align with the Sun, Uranus and each other, within hours of this winter solstice.
4. Earth's rotation frequency minus twice Luna's (also Mars' rotation frequency minus once Luna's) is a frequency corresponding to 5 times the ~5.14 hour period, so Earth and Luna also show a resonance with it, though a relatively complicated one.
Not only is there a transit of Venus as seen from Earth, in June 2012, there is also a transit of Mercury as seen from Venus, maximum at 08h GMT Dec. 18, 2012. The angle between the orbits of Mercury and Venus (found by applying a plane trigonometry approximation to the spherical problem of finding it from their orbital elements) is 4.32deg. At the time of the transit, the difference in their heliocentric ecliptic latitudes is only 0.153deg, which closeness happens on average only about once in 4.32/0.153*pi/2 = 44 Mercury-Venus conjunctions. The Sun-Venus-Mercury angle is about 0.22deg < 0.37 needed for a transit.
Also, there is a conjunction of Luna and Uranus, nearest approach in angular separation and in ecliptic longitude, 17h GMT Dec. 20. These bodies will be near the vernal equinox point:
Luna RA, Decl = 2.8, +5.6
Uranus " = 4.4, +1.1
The importance of this conjunction is due to several phenomena mentioned in my earlier posts:
1. The four asteroids with the special ~5.14hr rotation period, and Uranus, align with the Sun and with each other near this upcoming winter solstice.
2. The moons and rings of Uranus show many resonances with that 5.14hr period (as do the moons of Mars and to much less extent, those of Jupiter and Saturn).
3. Several moons of Uranus align with the Sun, Uranus and each other, within hours of this winter solstice.
4. Earth's rotation frequency minus twice Luna's (also Mars' rotation frequency minus once Luna's) is a frequency corresponding to 5 times the ~5.14 hour period, so Earth and Luna also show a resonance with it, though a relatively complicated one.
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Saturn's, Jupiter's & Uranus' moons align, Jan. 17, 19 & 26, 2013, resp.
The error from assuming that Jupiter's moons lie in the ecliptic, is negligible. The error from assuming that Saturn's do, can be up to about incl^2/4 radians = 3deg of revolution, but this is about the same for all the moons, in my method of calculation (because they lie in equal or opposite directions at the beginning and end of the time periods I consider) so the qualitative results aren't affected. The effect of the moons' (very small) orbital eccentricities is also neglected.
The least sum of squared differences in orbital angle, for Saturn's 5 large moons, during the time interval Dec. 1, 2012 - Jan. 31, 2013, occurs about Jan. 16.974, 2013; the Saturncentric ecliptic longitudes are about
Tethys 239 = 180+59
Dione 50
Rhea 55
Titan 57
Iapetus 236 = 180+56
The analogous time for Jupiter is Jan. 19.090. The Jupitercentric longitudes then are
Io 121
Europa 301 = 180+121
Ganymede 302 = 180+122
Callisto 300 = 180+120
Though these moons have famous resonances with each other, those resonances are inexact enough, that the orbital phases should be scrambled. For example, Ganymede::Europa = 7.155d:.551d = 2.015, not 2; and Rhea::Dione = 4.52::2.74 = 1.65, not 5/3 = 1.667. The closeness of the other four moons to Titan, is something that randomly should prevail only
2*7*1*1*4^4/360^4 = 1/5,000,000 of the time
and the closeness of the other three moons to Ganymede only
1*1*2*4^3/360^3 = 1/360,000 of the time.
The fastest moons move a degree ahead of the slowest, in about 0.005 day, so this closeness lasts ~0.005 day, and thus is something that should happen once in 0.005d*360,000 = 5 yr for Jupiter, and 0.005d*5,000,000 = 70 yr for Saturn. Yet these rare events occur for Jupiter and Saturn only 2d apart, and less than one month after the winter solstice of 2012 (end of Mayan calendar 13th "baktun" cycle).
When Saturn's moons align with each other and with Saturn, Jupiter nearly lies on that line. However when Jupiter's moons align with each other and with Jupiter, it is only Pluto that lies somewhat near that line.
Uranus' extreme tilt causes the longitude of its moons to be very sensitive to their position on their orbit, at high Uranocentric ecliptic latitudes; but insensitive at low latitudes. As expected, the best agreement in longitude, for Uranus' 5 biggest moons, during the interval Dec. 1, 2012 - Feb. 28, 2013, is when all are fairly near the orbital plane of Uranus. The Uranocentric ecliptic latitudes at Jan. 26.143 are:
Miranda 343 = -17 on the front (sunward) side of Uranus
Ariel 173 = +7 in back of Uranus
Umbriel 162 = +18 in back
Titania 331 = -29 in front
Oberon 171 = +9 in back
This closeness to Oberon (modulo 180) prevails
8*2*9*20*4^4/360^4 = 1/23,000 of the time
but only a tenth that often (0.05d*23,000*10 = 30 yr, equating ~10deg separations to ~0.05d duration) would they be so close together and also so close to Uranus' node. The longitudes are near the longitude of Uranus' node, and as with Saturn, this planetocentric line of longitude passes near Jupiter.
The error from assuming that Jupiter's moons lie in the ecliptic, is negligible. The error from assuming that Saturn's do, can be up to about incl^2/4 radians = 3deg of revolution, but this is about the same for all the moons, in my method of calculation (because they lie in equal or opposite directions at the beginning and end of the time periods I consider) so the qualitative results aren't affected. The effect of the moons' (very small) orbital eccentricities is also neglected.
The least sum of squared differences in orbital angle, for Saturn's 5 large moons, during the time interval Dec. 1, 2012 - Jan. 31, 2013, occurs about Jan. 16.974, 2013; the Saturncentric ecliptic longitudes are about
Tethys 239 = 180+59
Dione 50
Rhea 55
Titan 57
Iapetus 236 = 180+56
The analogous time for Jupiter is Jan. 19.090. The Jupitercentric longitudes then are
Io 121
Europa 301 = 180+121
Ganymede 302 = 180+122
Callisto 300 = 180+120
Though these moons have famous resonances with each other, those resonances are inexact enough, that the orbital phases should be scrambled. For example, Ganymede::Europa = 7.155d:.551d = 2.015, not 2; and Rhea::Dione = 4.52::2.74 = 1.65, not 5/3 = 1.667. The closeness of the other four moons to Titan, is something that randomly should prevail only
2*7*1*1*4^4/360^4 = 1/5,000,000 of the time
and the closeness of the other three moons to Ganymede only
1*1*2*4^3/360^3 = 1/360,000 of the time.
The fastest moons move a degree ahead of the slowest, in about 0.005 day, so this closeness lasts ~0.005 day, and thus is something that should happen once in 0.005d*360,000 = 5 yr for Jupiter, and 0.005d*5,000,000 = 70 yr for Saturn. Yet these rare events occur for Jupiter and Saturn only 2d apart, and less than one month after the winter solstice of 2012 (end of Mayan calendar 13th "baktun" cycle).
When Saturn's moons align with each other and with Saturn, Jupiter nearly lies on that line. However when Jupiter's moons align with each other and with Jupiter, it is only Pluto that lies somewhat near that line.
Uranus' extreme tilt causes the longitude of its moons to be very sensitive to their position on their orbit, at high Uranocentric ecliptic latitudes; but insensitive at low latitudes. As expected, the best agreement in longitude, for Uranus' 5 biggest moons, during the interval Dec. 1, 2012 - Feb. 28, 2013, is when all are fairly near the orbital plane of Uranus. The Uranocentric ecliptic latitudes at Jan. 26.143 are:
Miranda 343 = -17 on the front (sunward) side of Uranus
Ariel 173 = +7 in back of Uranus
Umbriel 162 = +18 in back
Titania 331 = -29 in front
Oberon 171 = +9 in back
This closeness to Oberon (modulo 180) prevails
8*2*9*20*4^4/360^4 = 1/23,000 of the time
but only a tenth that often (0.05d*23,000*10 = 30 yr, equating ~10deg separations to ~0.05d duration) would they be so close together and also so close to Uranus' node. The longitudes are near the longitude of Uranus' node, and as with Saturn, this planetocentric line of longitude passes near Jupiter.
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