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11 years 9 months ago #13900 by Jim
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Dr Joe, The ice age cycle requires about a million quads of energy to go from max. ice to no ice on the north area of our planet. A million quads can be moved over time bit by bit so we can use any reasonable period of time for the process to go from no ice to max ice-lets say 10,000 years or 100 quads per year. We remove 100 quads from the Arctic for 10,000 years and we have a 2,000 meters of ice covering 5% of our planet,s north lands(and sea). The energy can be returned to the north through deep sea vents in the Arctic Ocean over any reasonable number of years-lets say 500 years. We add 2,000 quads per year to the Arctic Ocean for 500 years and we have no ice. These vents and the geothermal activity is currently unknown to science and due to that ignorance no one is looking into these details at this time.

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11 years 9 months ago #13903 by Joe Keller
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How unusual is it that Algieba1 is off by 2.80"?

Executive summary: re Tortuguero Monument 6, Arcturus is "Bolon". His nine "companions" are the "reduced Declination tetrahedral corner stars" (two lie in the southern hemisphere; the dimmest are Vmag +9.00) Algieba, Botein, HD208202, HD65735, HD178555, HD139486, HD20682AB, HD73854, & BD+19 4022.

Another approximating star, to the "reduced" tetrahedral corners (whose reduced latitude, equals the geographic latitude of the actual corners)(see Appendix) at March 25.0, that I've found in the Bright Star Catalog, is HD208202 (a.k.a. HIP108119) whose Vmag is +6.36. Using the Hipparcos data again, I find that it is 13.94" too far north, to lie at Declination equal to the geographic latitude of the "reduced" tetrahedral corners when Arcturus' Declination is minimum. Curiously, HD208202 also is a double whose brightest component is an orange giant, spectral type K0 III (for Algieba the brightest component is K1 III; Arcturus is classed as K1.5 III). Earth's most flattened meridian, according to the 1952 ground-based Soviet determination, is 06W at 1/295.2. A spheroid this flattened, would have its "reduced" regular tetrahedral corners 10.43" farther north in geographic latitude, than for a spheroid flattened only 1/298.0; thus HD208202 would be only 3.51" too far north.

This many online Bright Star Catalog (9110 rows of data) stars would be expected in a band 2.80+13.94=16.74" wide at 19.775deg Declination:

9110/(4*pi)*2*pi*cos(19.775)*16.74/3600*pi/180 = 0.35

My computer program finds regular tetrahedra inscribed in a triaxial ellipsoid flattened 1/298.0 & 1/295.2, with a vertex at the South Pole. If a "reduced" vertex lies on the least flattened meridian, it must have geographic latitude 6.093" greater than if the other meridians were flattened the same so that the ellipsoid were a spheroid, and the other two vertices at that latitude, must have latitude 3.05" less. If a vertex lies on the most flattened meridian, it must have geographic latitude 6.476" less, and the other two vertices 3.24" greater.

So for Earth's actual triaxial ellipsoid, the most southerly possible inscribed "reduced" regular tetrahedron vertex (with one vertex at the South Pole) is at geographic latitude 3.05-2.80=0.25" south of the Declination of the brightest component of Algieba, and the most northerly possible such vertex 3.51-3.24=0.27" south of the Declination of HD208202. (These Declinations are at March 25.0 when Arcturus' Declination is minimum; all Declinations include aberration and nutation.) By linear interpolation I find that a change in spheroid flattening from 1/298.0 to 1/298.05 causes 0.18" decrease in the vertex latitude, and a change from 1/298.0 & 1/295.2 to 1/298.0 & 1/295.15 causes 3.05*0.05/2.8 = 0.054" decrease in the latitude of the most southern vertices of a tilted tetrahedron with south pole vertex. Rounding error thus could explain much of the discrepancy observed with the Declinations of Algieba and HD208202.

The only other approximate "tetrahedral" star that I find in the Bright Star catalog (for northern, not southern Declinations) is Delta Arietis (Botein), Vmag +4.35. Amazingly it is K2 III, about the same spectral type as the others. Hipparcos data show that at the relevant time it lies 5.97-3.05 = 2.92" south of the most southern "reduced" vertex for the triaxial ellipsoidal Earth.

Now let's consider the Right Ascensions of these, corrected for mean precession & ecliptic (NASA Lambda utility) but not nutation or aberration:

Arcturus RA J2013.23 14:16:17
Algieba 10:20:42
HD 208202 21:54:55
Delta Arietis (Botein) 03:12:23

HD 65735 08:01:34 (see below)

HD 178555 19:10:35 (southern hemisphere)(see below)

The difference between HD 208202 & Delta Arietis, is 5.291h. Between Algieba & HD208202, 11.570h = 6h + 5.570h. Between Algieba & Delta Arietis, 7.139h = 12h - 4.861h. Between Delta Arietis & Arcturus, 11.065h = 6h + 5.065h. This suggests some involvement with the 5+ hr period I'd identified in earlier posts as astronomically fundamental. For the southern hemisphere star (see below), between Arcturus & HD 178555 is 4.905h. Between Delta Arietis and HD65735, 4.820h. When the four non-giant stars found below are included, along with Arcturus, for ten stars total, the periodogram in RA has its highest peak, 4.91, at 3.02 hr RA period, and also its only near-zero, 0.0200, at 2.911 hr RA period.

There is one near miss among the stars near Declination -19: HD178555 (Vmag +6.13, spectral type K1 III ! ) lies 21.54" too far south in the same sense that HD208202 lies 13.94" too far north. That is, allowing for the southernmost "reduced" corners of any slightly tilted regular tetrahedron inscribed in Earth's triaxial ellipsoid with a vertex at the North Pole, HD178555 is 21.54-10.43-3.24 = 7.87" too far south.

In absolute terms, on March 25.0, HD178555 lies farthest in Declination, from Algieba: 24.34" (30 days earlier: 25.01"). Then the greatest difference in Declination, in absolute terms, is between HD178555 & Botein: 27.51" (30 days earlier: 28.58"). When I measured on Millon's large paper map, the distance between the centers of the top platforms of the Pyramids of the Moon & Sun, I found that the component of this distance, parallel to the "Avenue of the Dead", is 769.3m, where the last digit is doubtful due to my ruler error. Using Zhongolovich's Earth dimensions from the 1987-1988 CRC Handbook of Chemistry & Physics, I find that if this were a N-S distance it would correspond to 24.89" geocentric or 25.02" geographic latitude difference, where all hundredths digits are doubtful due to ruler error; this is consistent with the Algieba - HD178555 absolute Declination difference March 25 - 30 = Feb 23. The complete interpyramid distance (not just the component parallel to the Avenue of the Dead) measures 806.7m; if this were a projection from the Avenue of the Dead (i.e. a side of the right triangle rather than its hypotenuse) the distance along the avenue of the Dead would correspond to 25.019*(806.7/769.3)^2 = 27.51", consistent with the Botein - HD178555 abs. Decl. difference March 25.

Searching the 604,000-row Skiff spectral type catalog online at VizieR, for magnitudes 6.31-9.99 (thus overlapping the Bright Star Catalog 0.2 mag at the bright end) and spectral types "G9III", "K0III", "K1III", "K2III", & "K3III", I find no additional objects at Declinations of date, comparable to the foregoing. I confirmed this by scanning the entire Skiff catalog between Decl +19.7 & +19.85 (554 rows; many rows were essentially duplicates, due to variations in naming or spectral classification) by eye for these spectral types, but did find one more: HD65735, Vmag 6.30 (too bright to fall into my previous search) K1 III. For 2013, this star is 10.43+3.24-11.59 = 2.08" south of the northernmost corners; for 2014, 3.05-1.11 = 1.94" north of the southernmost corners. I also scanned the Skiff catalog between Decl -19.85 & -19.7, limited to Vmag < 6.31, and found no additional stars with these spectral types and appropriate Declinations on the relevant dates. Neither did I find any of type V, IV, II or I, for colors G9-K3 (or any color whatever for types IV & III) and Vmag 6.21-9.99.

I do find HD139486 (southern hemisphere), Vmag 7.65, type B9.5V (in absolute value 6.09-3.05 = 3.04" south of the southernmost reduced corners, Mar 25 2013, and 4.86-10.43+6.48 = 0.91" north of the corner on the most flattened meridian, Mar 28 2014); HD 20682AB, Vm 7.60, A2V (0.31-3.05 = 2.74" north of the southernmost corners in 2013, and 10.43+3.24-11.94 = 1.73" south of the northernmost corners in 2014); HD73854, Vm 9.00, F1V (22.84-10.43-3.24 = 9.17" north of the northernmost corners in 2013, and 7.27-6.09 = 1.18" north of the corner on the least flattened meridian in 2014); and BD+19 4022, Vm 9.00, F5V (10.43+3.24-12.38 = 1.29" south of the northernmost corners in 2013), whose Declinations will be very near the abovementioned "reduced tetrahedral corners" at 2013.23AD and/or 2014.23AD. These four type V stars, plus the five early K type III stars already found, could be the "nine companions" of "Bolon" (=Arcturus) which "descends" to its local minimum apparent Declination in March 2013. (I used the Hipparcos catalog for astrometric data on all stars, or its extention, the Tycho catalog, for the dimmest stars, HD73854 & BD+19 4022.)

In 2014 (to save time in calculating aberration, I assumed that Earth's velocity would be exactly the same, exactly one sidereal year later) at Arcturus' minimum Declination March 28.0, HD178555 would be only 10.43+3.24-13.04 = 0.63" north of the southernmost (southern hemisphere) reduced tetrahedron corner. Delta Arietis would be 6.95-6.09 = 0.86" north of the corner on the least flattened meridian.

Appendix. The "reduced" tetrahedral corners.

For simplicity let's consider a two-dimensional cross-section of a sphere, a great circle. Suppose particles stream (in the plane of the circle) with velocity (X, Y) and elastically (i.e. with perfect recoil) strike the perimeter of this circle with equal probability at all points. A segment of the perimeter, (dx, dy) absorbs a momentum vector proportional to (-dy*X, dx*Y). From the symmetry of the circle, we know that the sum of all these absorbed momentum vectors all over the circle's perimeter, must have direction (X, Y) like the particle stream.

If the circle now is flattened into an ellipse, dy becomes b*dy with b<1. The sum of all the absorbed momentum vectors now has direction (-b*dy*X, dx*Y). The tangent of the orientation angle of the absorbed momentum vector has been multiplied by 1/b.

If a particle stream is directed perpendicular to the surface of Earth's ellipsoid at the corners of an inscribed regular tetrahedron, its orientation angle is the geographic (a.k.a. geodetic) latitude of those corners, by the definition of geographic latitude. Unlike a sphere, an ellipsoid lacks symmetry; it slightly resembles other flattened objects like boards or sails. The absorbed momentum vector is not exactly parallel to the particle stream direction. It is normal to a point on the ellipsoid, the tangent of whose geographic latitude is greater by a factor of 1/b, than the tangent of the orientation angle of the particle stream. That is, its reduced latitude equals the geographic latitude of the actual tetrahedron corners.

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11 years 9 months ago #13905 by Joe Keller
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The near-miss asteroid: disinformation?
Or, conspiracy theory du jour

Months ago I interpreted crop circles as saying that something would be happening with a bell curve probability peaking Feb 17 (and a standard deviation of roughly two months). Then we are told that there will be an asteroid near-miss Feb 15, and an explosion in Russia that day is attributed to a small fellow traveler [update Feb 16: only briefly was there such an attribution; mainstream astronomers quickly publicized that the Russia impact was due to a meteor of much different orbit, therefore unrelated to the near-miss asteroid] of that near miss. The "asteroid" might be a small interplanetary probe launched by the U.S. to distract amateur astonomers and provide, for a few more crucial days, a false alternative explanation for what really is happening.

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11 years 8 months ago #13908 by Joe Keller
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Cholula/Teotihuacan: an accurate, robust "precessional alarm clock" (phrase due to J. M. Jenkins)

Summary. If the line between the Pyramid of the Moon and the Pyramid of the Sun at Teotihuacan represents the N-S line at the time of construction, then not only do the present latitudes of the pyramids of Teotihuacan and Cholula roughly equal the present Declinations of Algieba and Arcturus: the original difference in latitude between the Pyramid of the Moon and the Pyramid of Cholula, precisely equaled the present difference in apparent Declination of date, between Algieba and Arcturus. Furthermore, let us consider the point P, where the present ecliptic intersects Arcturus' present parallel of Declination. The present difference in Right Ascension between Arcturus and P, equals 1.6126 times the angle between the Avenue of Teotihuacan (which Millon and Dow say is oriented 15deg25' E of N) and the line between the Pyramids of the Moon and Cholula. The present difference in Right Ascension between Arcturus and Algieba, equals 1.6124 times the angle between the Pyramid of Moon - Pyramid of Sun line, and the Pyramid of Moon - Pyramid of Cholula line. This ratio is determined by the difference in Right Ascension between Algieba and Antares: 1.6123 radian. If Teotihuacan's "other" orientation, 16deg30' +/- 30' E of N (inferred from streets, etc., aligned S of E) is used instead of the Avenue, it corresponds to the RA difference between Arcturus and Avior, with ratio 1.60307. Assuming the pole shift 5'40" W of N at Giza, indicated by Petrie's survey, the pyramids El Castillo and Mundo Perdido are positioned at latitudes corresponding to the Declination minima of Jupiter and Venus, resp., at their latest stationarity; with the pyramid of Cholula corresponding to the minimum Declination of Arcturus as it varies mainly due to stellar aberration.


I use the Wikipedia coordinates of the Pyramids of Cholula & of the Moon. These are copied correctly from the cited reference, a Google service called "Geohack" at toolserver.org, on which they seem to be given to the nearest 0.0001deg, roughly the accuracy of GPS (which is affected by atmospheric phenomena). Millon gives as central coordinates for his map, the coordinates of the Pyramid of the Sun, but both his longitude and his latitude end in 30", suggesting that the difference between Millon's and Wikipedia could be mostly the rounding error of the former.

Let us suppose that the Pyramid of Cholula originally were at a geographic latitude equal to the time-local minimum of Arcturus' apparent Declination of date, which for this year occurs at March 25.162, 2013AD (based on Hipparcos catalog data and including correction for Proper Motion, parallax, precession, nutation and aberration). Then if the line between the Pyramids of Moon & Sun represents geographic north at the time of construction, it would need to be oriented (according to spherical trigonometry) 2.0987deg W of N, for Algieba's apparent Declination of date, on March 25.162, to equal the original geographic latitude of the Pyramid of the Moon. On Millon's map I measure this orientation as 2.1064deg and estimate the one-sigma error resulting from my contributing ruler measurements as roughly 0.034, so even if ruler measurement is the only error, the discrepancy between measured and theoretical orientation is only 0.2 sigma.

If the Pyramid of the Moon - Pyramid of the Sun line really is at 2.0987deg W of N as required above, then the angle PyrSun-PyrMoon-PyrCholula is 1/1.61241 times the difference in Right Ascensions of date, of Arcturus & Algieba. Though this happens to be near the Golden Ratio = 1.618034..., it is much nearer the Right Ascension difference of Algieba & Antares measured in radians, 1.612326. Dividing the Right Ascension differences, by a factor such that the Antares-Algieba RA difference becomes 1.0 radian, keeps all the angles less than 90 degrees, even with the inclusion of Antares in the set, and also allows the inclusion of Antares, by means of this hint, without building a monument for it. Thus the layout expresses not only the Declination difference but also the Right Ascension difference between Arcturus & Algieba. The consistent time interval is still several years, because in both coordinates, the two stars change at nearly the same rate: in their change in apparent Declination they differ from each other only by a fraction of an arcsecond per year, and their change in Right Ascension differs only Arcturus-Algieba = 42-49-1+0 = -8"/yr, including precession and Proper Motion; -8"/59deg = -1/27000. The change in Right Ascension Antares-Algieba = 55-49-0+0 = +6"/yr; +6"/92deg = +1/55000. The pyramid coordinate rounding error is roughly 0.00005/0.5deg = 1/10000, but if the pyramid coordinates were exact, then the difference in the ratios 1.612326 for Antares-Algieba, and 1.61241 for Arcturus-Algieba, a part in 19200, would disappear in 1/19200 / (1/27000 + 1/55000) = 0.9 yr.

Let us also consider the point P where Arcturus' present parallel of Declination intersects the present ecliptic. The angle between the Avenue of Teotihuacan, and the line PyrMoon-PyrCholula, is 1/1.61263 times the difference in Right Ascensions of date, of Arcturus and P. The Right Ascension of date, of P, does not change with precession, but Arcturus' large Proper Motion in Declination affects it indirectly by +9"/yr due to the small angle, between the ecliptic and the Declination parallel. The difference in Right Ascension, of Arcturus and P, changes 42-1-9 = +32"/yr; +32"/87deg = +1/9800. The rounding error in the orientation of the Avenue of Teotihuacan, might be 2.5' --> 1/1300 or 0.5' --> 1/6500. Millon adopted Dow's 1964 astronomical measurement of 15deg25', but gave honorable mention to another researcher's measurement, 15deg28'. A value of 15deg25.6' would produce the abovementioned monument-free standard ratio, RA Antares minus Algieba expressed in radians.

The Right Ascension of Avior, a.k.a. epsilon Carinae (reaches more than 10deg altitude at Teotihuacan now, and was farther north in the past)(not to be confused with the famous eta Carinae) changes little with precession, only 18.5"/yr, because it is near the south ecliptic pole. (This is even less than Canopus, which changes 20"/yr.) The angle between 16deg30' E of N (the "other" Teotihuacan angle, based on the 16deg30' +/- 30' S of E figure quoted by Dow in American Antiquity, 1967, for an EW street that had been measured precisely) and the line PyrMoon-PyrCholula, is 1/1.60307 times the difference in Right Ascensions of date, of Arcturus and Avior, at the same date, Mar 25.162, used above. If the correct "other" Teotihuacan angle were 16deg11' instead of 16deg30', the ratio would be the same as the Antares-Algieba standard. As with P, Avior's difference in RA with Arcturus changes rapidly with precession, 42-1-18.5 = 22.5"/yr. Millon's 1972 book accompanying his map, says that S of E orientations at Teotihuacan generally range from 16.5 to 17deg. However, the most prominent long EW structure at Teotihuacan, is the EW wall shown on Millon's large photogrammetric paper map, forming the northern boundary of the Citadel (the large courtyard of the Pyramid of Quetzalcoatl). My own measurement Feb. 27 on Iowa State University's copy of Millon's map, shows that this wall's orientation (along its northern, outside edge) is 90deg + 55' +/- 1' clockwise from the Avenue, i.e. 16deg20' +/- 1' S of E.

The needed "other" Teotihuacan angle is seen even more accurately in the angle which, according to spherical trigonometry, the great circle from the El Castillo (at Kukulkan) to Mundo Perdido (at Tikal) pyramids, again using 0.0001deg precision Wikipedia coordinates, crosses the parallel of latitude of the Pyramid of the Moon: the complement of 16deg12'. Accounting for pole shift, this would have been equal to an ancient angle at Teotihuacan that would be 16deg13' now. The other natural point on the Castillo-Perdido great circle, is its intersection with the PyrMoon-PyrCholula great circle: at this intersection, the Castillo-Perdido great circle's angle with due north, is 15deg27', near the 15deg25.6' needed by my theory for Teotihuacan's main avenue angle (pole shift considerations change the 15deg27', to 15deg28'). So, the pyramids El Castillo and Mundo Perdido were placed on the unique great circle that would corroborate the famous "15.5" and "16.5" degree angles at Teotihuacan.

The geographic latitude of El Castillo was chosen equal to the minimum Declination of Jupiter near its post-retrogression stationarity Jan 2013. The minimum Declination of Jupiter near its stationarity, geocentric, apparent (excluding refraction, which would be tiny so near the zenith as at El Castillo) using coordinates of date, including nutation and aberration, is +20.764257deg at 20:15 GMT Jan 23, 2013, according to the JPL Horizons ephemeris (and Luna's is similar, +20.633134; Luna's lower limb would be 1772.486"/2 less: 20.386955). Wikipedia's geographic latitude for El Castillo is +20.6828, to which 0.07106 is added for the effect of the 5'40" W of N ancient pole as seen from Giza. The difference between the Declination minimum and the corrected latitude, is only 37.4" (if Jupiter's minimum Declination is as observed from El Castillo instead of Earth's center, the error is a little less, 36.2"). The corrected latitude of the Pyramid of the Magician, is 20.36080 + 0.07019 = 20.43100, 158.6" greater than Luna's lower limb as above.

The pyramid Mundo Perdido is to Venus, as the pyramid El Castillo is to Jupiter. The geographic latitude of Mundo Perdido was chosen equal to the minimum Declination of Venus near its post-retrogression stationarity Jul 2012. The minimum Declination of Venus near its stationarity, geocentric, apparent (excluding refraction, which would be tiny so near the zenith as at Mundo Perdido) using coordinates of date, including nutation and aberration, is +17.384489deg at about 00:04:30 GMT Jul 06, 2012, according to the JPL Horizons ephemeris. Wikipedia's geographic latitude for Mundo Perdido is +17.22005, to which 0.07030 is added for the effect of the 5'40" W of N ancient pole as seen from Giza. The difference between the Declination minimum and the corrected latitude, is 338.9". If Venus' Declination is observed from Mundo Perdido instead of Earth's center, the error is a little less, 327.0". If the Mundo Perdido site were surveyed originally at the start of the Younger Dryas 12,680 yr ago (2013AD - 12,680) and Giza only at the start of the Mayan Long Count 5125 yr ago, extrapolating the pole shift correction, changes the +338.9" error, to -34.2".

Venus' Declination at minimum geocentric apparent Right Ascension of date, which occurred Jun 27 2012 04:21 GMT near stationarity, was greater, +17.834013deg. At El Mirador, the latitudes usually given online for the La Danta & El Tigre pyramids are 17.75156 & 17.75606, resp. Correction for pole shift vs. Giza, as above, gives 17.82166 & 17.82614. So, the errors are only 44.5" & 28.3", resp., about the same as the error regarding Jupiter at El Castillo.

From my measurements on Millon's map, the distance between the Pyramids of the Moon and Sun is equivalent to 25.02" geographic latitude, where the last digit is doubtful due to ruler error. Perhaps this distance was chosen for additional redundancy in the code. The difference in RA between Arcturus and the point P is 87.146deg. The geometric mean of these two angles is 46.7'; 16deg11' - 15deg25' = 46' is just the increment needed, to make the "other" Teotihuacan angle, 16+ deg E of N, perfectly correspond to Avior in this theory. Another interpretation of the PyrMoon-PyrSun distance, is that according to a formula of Newcomb for the historical rate of precession, the 25.019" corresponds to exactly half the mean precession rate since 130 BC +/- 80 (or maybe more) yr, where the uncertainty is from my estimated ruler error: this matches the dates of the earliest known major construction at these pyramid sites.

The Tycho-2 catalog reveals several times as many stars of Vmag < 8.00, as does the Skiff spectral type catalog. I've not yet had time to assess the Tycho stars, but can see from their number that the correlation of early K giant stars (Arcturus, Algieba, Botein and others) whose reduced Declinations are geographic latitudes of tetrahedral corners, as discussed in my previous investigations, might or might not be statistically significant.

Let us consider the Right Ascension of Luna. At 01:15 GMT Mar 25 = Mar 25.052, according to the JPL ephemeris, the J2000 RA of Luna becomes equal to the J2000 RA of Algieba according to the Bright Star catalog (corrected for proper motion only). Luna's RA changes 31"/minute, so aberration, or the use of J2013.23 instead of J2000 meridians, hardly affect the result. (The time derivative of the nutation displacement of Earth's pole, which I got online from celnav.de, is suspiciously large though perhaps consistent with the amplitude of the 0.5 yr nutation term. If I omit the nutation altogether, i.e. use the mean pole corrected for precession and secular obliquity change only, I find that the minimum Declination of Arcturus is Mar 21.706. I calculated nutation by interpolating 60 day intervals; if I use much smaller intervals, the date of Arcturus' minimum Declination can change by several weeks.)

If the North Pole position is changed to its former position suggested by Petrie's survey of Giza (i.e. 340" W of N as seen from the Great Pyramid, per Petrie's value 5'40" +/- 10"; but no closer nor farther from Giza) then Arcturus' minimum Declination on Mar 25, 2013, would differ only 0.30" (not much more than coordinate rounding error) from the former geographic latitude of the Cholula pyramid. However, if the Pole position were the same when Teotihuacan/Cholula was surveyed, as when Giza was, then the 2.1deg W of N orientation of the PyrMoon-PyrSun line, did not indicate the Pole. Instead, this angle gives more evidence for the c. 130 BC construction date. The time midpoint between 130 BC and 2013 AD is 942 AD; denote the mean celestial pole then, according to the online NASA Lambda utility, by B. Denote the mean celestial pole at 2013 AD by C. Denote the position of Algieba at 2013 AD, according to the online Hipparcos catalog, by A. Spherical trigonometry gives the angle BAC = 1.612326 (see above for this number's importance) * 2.137244deg. Including the effect of Petrie's 5'40", the angle between the PyrMoon-PyrSun line and the original Earth pole would have been 2.0987 + 200.99"/3600 = 2.1545deg. The difference from 2.1372, 1.0', is only 0.5 sigma times my paper map measurement error (see above) and implies only 0.7 sigma deviation from the measured PyrMoon-PyrSun angle (vs. 1.0 sigma & opposite sign, without the 201" correction). These coincidences suggest that the builders of Giza in 2500 BC, knew that the small upcoming pole shift would be perpendicular to their chosen meridian. The result for Arcturus suggests that the pole shift the Giza builders foresaw, mostly occurred between 130 BC and the present.

These are the reasons Algieba was chosen:

1. It is one of the 50 brightest stars in the sky, and the brightest star in the mane, or sickle, of Leo.

2. Algieba's Right Ascension (J2000 10h20m) interpolates with almost equal steps that of Antares (16h29m), Arcturus (14h16m), the Sun, or rather its antipode, at Mar 25.162 (0h16m = 12h16m - 180deg) & Avior (8h23m), all of which together span only about 8h RA, so are simultaneously visible in the Teotihuacan night sky in late March.

3. Suggestively, Arcturus, Algieba and Avior have the same color; all are, or have primaries that are, early K giants, i.e. K0 to K3, type III (possibly K7 for Avior) while Antares is M1.5 Ib. Algieba has a bright, late G secondary. Avior & Antares have moderately dim, early B secondaries, so the subjective colors of these stars might be less red than the primary's spectral type would suggest. Similar color is another clue that the stars all belong to the same monument scheme.

4. Algieba's Declination is very near that of Arcturus.

5. When Arcturus' Declination is minimum March 25.16, 2013, Luna is roughly south of Algieba.

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11 years 8 months ago #13909 by Joe Keller
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The preceding is the single most important post I've ever made to this messageboard. It contains my most precise calculations and leads to the most compelling conclusions. The presently available coordinates for the Teotihuacan/Cholula pyramids limit the precision of the "precessional alarm clock" to +/- 1 yr, but more precise coordinates could much improve this.

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11 years 8 months ago #21364 by Joe Keller
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A simple, compelling excerpt from my Teotihuacan analysis


"...The geographic latitude of El Castillo was chosen equal to the minimum Declination of Jupiter near its post-retrogression stationarity Jan 2013. The minimum Declination of Jupiter near its stationarity, geocentric, apparent (excluding refraction, which would be tiny so near the zenith as at El Castillo) using coordinates of date, including nutation and aberration, is +20.764257deg at 20:15 GMT Jan 23, 2013, according to the JPL Horizons ephemeris (and Luna's is similar, +20.633134; Luna's lower limb would be 1772.486"/2 less: 20.386955). Wikipedia's geographic latitude for El Castillo is +20.6828, to which 0.07106 is added for the effect of the 5'40" W of N ancient pole as seen from Giza. The difference between the Declination minimum and the corrected latitude, is only 37.4" (if Jupiter's minimum Declination is as observed from El Castillo instead of Earth's center, the error is a little less, 36.2"). The corrected latitude of the Pyramid of the Magician, is 20.36080 + 0.07019 = 20.43100, 158.6" greater than Luna's lower limb as above.

"The pyramid Mundo Perdido is to Venus, as the pyramid El Castillo is to Jupiter. The geographic latitude of Mundo Perdido was chosen equal to the minimum Declination of Venus near its post-retrogression stationarity Jul 2012. The minimum Declination of Venus near its stationarity, geocentric, apparent (excluding refraction, which would be tiny so near the zenith as at Mundo Perdido) using coordinates of date, including nutation and aberration, is +17.384489deg at about 00:04:30 GMT Jul 06, 2012, according to the JPL Horizons ephemeris. Wikipedia's geographic latitude for Mundo Perdido is +17.22005, to which 0.07030 is added for the effect of the 5'40" W of N ancient pole as seen from Giza. The difference between the Declination minimum and the corrected latitude, is 338.9". If Venus' Declination is observed from Mundo Perdido instead of Earth's center, the error is a little less, 327.0". If the Mundo Perdido site were surveyed originally at the start of the Younger Dryas 12,680 yr ago (2013AD - 12,680) and Giza only at the start of the Mayan Long Count 5125 yr ago, extrapolating the pole shift correction, changes the +338.9" error, to -34.2".

"Venus' Declination at minimum geocentric apparent Right Ascension of date, which occurred Jun 27 2012 04:21 GMT near stationarity, was greater, +17.834013deg. At El Mirador, the latitudes usually given online for the La Danta & El Tigre pyramids are 17.75156 & 17.75606, resp. Correction for pole shift vs. Giza, as above, gives 17.82166 & 17.82614. So, the errors are only 44.5" & 28.3", resp., about the same as the error regarding Jupiter at El Castillo.

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"If the North Pole position is changed to its former position suggested by Petrie's survey of Giza (i.e. 340" W of N as seen from the Great Pyramid, per Petrie's value 5'40" +/- 10"; but no closer nor farther from Giza) then Arcturus' minimum Declination on Mar 25, 2013, would differ only 0.30" (not much more than coordinate rounding error) from the former geographic latitude of the Cholula pyramid. ..."

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