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15 years 2 months ago #23008
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Maurol, The color of Sirius was red according to many observers. Do you know if any Roman authorities made any mention of the color and when the last known reference to a red Sirius was recorded? When was Sirius first called white or blue rather thn red?
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15 years 2 months ago #23010
by Maurol
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<br />Maurol, The color of Sirius was red according to many observers. Do you know if any Roman authorities made any mention of the color and when the last known reference to a red Sirius was recorded? When was Sirius first called white or blue rather thn red?
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Hi Jim
As I've said previously:
"The first unambiguous mention of Sirius as a white star seems to happen around 950CE, by a Persian astronomer, Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi (903-986 CE)."
The last reference to Sirius as red star seem to be around as late as the 6th century CE, by a Gallo-Roman chronicler, Gregory of Tours.
I've found this data on the internet. You should clearly do your own research, if you're interested. The internet is a wonderful thing when you pop some words or names in a search engine.
And by the way, here's a "book search" tool that I've devised:
[url] maurol.com.ar/bs [/url]
You can find The Holy Science book with it(which seems to be in the public domain now), after some searching.
Now, some first hand information:
Months ago I noticed and defined an interesting astronomical fact: <b>Around the 12th century CE, the date of Earth's solstice coincided with the date of Earth's perihelion</b>. That is, around 1.250 CE, Earth's perihelion was around December 21.
This is a "once in 26.000 years" astronomical event.
I've obtained this date using NASA ephemeris data.
I also contrasted it by calculation, using formulas for the date of Earth's perihelion based in the sidereal year, correcting the dates for the diverse calendric modifications throughout past centuries, and counting leap years. This custom method gives me a date some 300 years before than Nasa ephemeris: around 900 CE.
In detail, using Nasa ephemeris data, I've obtained that the first time that the perihelion fell in December 21, was around the year 1134CE, and the last time was around the year 1388AD. The mean being the year 1261AD.
If, as I've said before, there are hitherto unknown resonances or coincidences between the planets of the Solar System and a binary companion, this coincidence of Earth's solstice and perihelion dates could be related to apoapsis of the binary orbit. If true, this means that in a moment around the year 1261CE, plus or minus 130 years, the apoapsis point of the binary orbit happened. This differs from Yukteswar date by around 700 years, but seems to better coincide with historical reports of Sirius's change of color.
It could be interesting to study what other significative or rare astronomical events took place, particularly inside the solar system, around the 12th century CE.
Best regards,
Mauro Lacy
<br />Maurol, The color of Sirius was red according to many observers. Do you know if any Roman authorities made any mention of the color and when the last known reference to a red Sirius was recorded? When was Sirius first called white or blue rather thn red?
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Hi Jim
As I've said previously:
"The first unambiguous mention of Sirius as a white star seems to happen around 950CE, by a Persian astronomer, Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi (903-986 CE)."
The last reference to Sirius as red star seem to be around as late as the 6th century CE, by a Gallo-Roman chronicler, Gregory of Tours.
I've found this data on the internet. You should clearly do your own research, if you're interested. The internet is a wonderful thing when you pop some words or names in a search engine.
And by the way, here's a "book search" tool that I've devised:
[url] maurol.com.ar/bs [/url]
You can find The Holy Science book with it(which seems to be in the public domain now), after some searching.
Now, some first hand information:
Months ago I noticed and defined an interesting astronomical fact: <b>Around the 12th century CE, the date of Earth's solstice coincided with the date of Earth's perihelion</b>. That is, around 1.250 CE, Earth's perihelion was around December 21.
This is a "once in 26.000 years" astronomical event.
I've obtained this date using NASA ephemeris data.
I also contrasted it by calculation, using formulas for the date of Earth's perihelion based in the sidereal year, correcting the dates for the diverse calendric modifications throughout past centuries, and counting leap years. This custom method gives me a date some 300 years before than Nasa ephemeris: around 900 CE.
In detail, using Nasa ephemeris data, I've obtained that the first time that the perihelion fell in December 21, was around the year 1134CE, and the last time was around the year 1388AD. The mean being the year 1261AD.
If, as I've said before, there are hitherto unknown resonances or coincidences between the planets of the Solar System and a binary companion, this coincidence of Earth's solstice and perihelion dates could be related to apoapsis of the binary orbit. If true, this means that in a moment around the year 1261CE, plus or minus 130 years, the apoapsis point of the binary orbit happened. This differs from Yukteswar date by around 700 years, but seems to better coincide with historical reports of Sirius's change of color.
It could be interesting to study what other significative or rare astronomical events took place, particularly inside the solar system, around the 12th century CE.
Best regards,
Mauro Lacy
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15 years 2 months ago #23428
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Bright Stars over the Pyramids: Atlantean Knowledge (Part 2)
by Joseph C. Keller, M. D., August 29, 2009
Abstract. The relative positions and sizes of the three large Giza pyramids, together with two arbitrary dates, exploit a total of eight degrees of freedom, to specify two bright star alignments, and Barbarossa's 2012AD (or 4329BC) sidereal position; and, redundantly, Barbarossa's (approximately constant) ecliptic latitude, and Barbarossa's 2012AD declination.
Introduction.
"[Critias] replied: - ...one of the [Egyptian] priests...said: O Solon...There is a story, which even you have preserved, that once upon a time Phaethon, the son of Helios...burnt up all that was upon the earth... . Now this has the form of a myth, but really signifies a declination of the bodies moving in the heavens around the earth, and a great conflagration of things upon the earth, which recurs after long intervals;... .
"...after the usual interval, the stream from heaven, like a pestilence, comes pouring down, and leaves only those of you who are destitute of letters and education; and so you have to begin all over again like children..."
- Plato, "Timaeus" (Jowett transl.)(Britannica Great Books pp. 444,445)
Further results and discussion. In Part 1, I found that at 8690BC, Sirius could be sighted on the meridian at the peak of Menkaure's pyramid, while Barbarossa's 2012 sidereal position (a point in the constellation Crater) simultaneously was sighted at the peak of Khafre's. Now I also find that due to Earth's precession, this point in Crater, lies on Earth's equator, at 8602BC. It is like a code for this point of Barbarossa's orbit: the time to look, is given by the presence of the celestial equator at the peak of Khafre, when Sirius is on the meridian at the peak of Menkaure. At this time (c. 8600 BC), Barbarossa's 2012 position lies on the equator, and at the peak of Khafre. The cost of this information was two degrees of freedom in the arrangement of the pyramids.
The pyramids also were arranged (see Part 1) so that sometime when Rigel was on the meridian and at the peak of Menkaure, Regulus would be at the peak of Khafre; and sometime when Sirius was on the meridian and at Menkaure, Arcturus would be at Khufu. These dates could be accidental, not specified, and thereby provide another two degrees of freedom, in the time, so the net cost of this information is 2*2 - 2 = two degrees of freedom.
The remaining two degrees of freedom of the six available (i.e., the latitude, longitude and height of the second and third pyramids, relative to the first) were spent for redundancy in giving the position of Barbarossa in 2012AD. The ecliptic latitude of the Dec. 2012AD point, of Barbarossa's orbit, changes only a fraction of a degree during these millenia; this change is given by the formula at the bottom of p. B18 of the 1990 Astronomical Almanac. For 2000AD and 4329BC, the latitudes, of the 2012AD point, are -11.803 and -11.594deg, resp. According to Petrie's raw data (sec. 19), the break in the line on the Earth's surface between the casing centers of the pyramids, is 11.461deg. Thus Barbarossa's ecliptic latitude for 2012AD, is suggested with only 0.3deg error.
The angle upward from the peak of Menkaure to the peak of Khafre, from the data used in Part 1, is 9.472deg (neglecting the curvature of the Earth, which introduces error of order 0.01deg). My best estimate of Barbarossa's J2000.0 coordinate system declination on Dec. 21, 2012, is -9.381; in the coordinates of the equinox and ecliptic of date 2013.0, its declination is -9.453.
The dates of the pyramids. The pyramids might have been built c. 2500 BC and their layout calculated from an exact knowledge of Barbarossa's 4329BC position and sidereal orbital period, and of Earth's precession; or the pyramids might have been built earlier, maybe contemporary with the Sphinx, and merely refurbished in 2500 BC, with the addition of outer casings, sarcophagi, auxiliary temples and the like. Maybe the originals were smaller but to scale, and the final size built in 2500BC. The alignment of Sirius and Arcturus over the pyramids at 2520BC might have stimulated interest. The dates indicated by the star alignments might or might not be the dates the pyramids were built.
The purpose of the pyramids. The Rigel-Regulus and Sirius-Arcturus alignments serve to alert future scientists that "There is information about star alignments here." Then the future scientists would notice that the alignment of Sirius and the equator, implied a position where something might lie invisible, and that the Menkaure-Khafre-Khufu break angle, and Menkaure-to-Khafre peak-to-peak slope (ground, and air, geometry, resp.) of the pyramids confirm the (nearly constant) ecliptic latitude, and the 2012AD declination, resp., of this (now invisible) something.
by Joseph C. Keller, M. D., August 29, 2009
Abstract. The relative positions and sizes of the three large Giza pyramids, together with two arbitrary dates, exploit a total of eight degrees of freedom, to specify two bright star alignments, and Barbarossa's 2012AD (or 4329BC) sidereal position; and, redundantly, Barbarossa's (approximately constant) ecliptic latitude, and Barbarossa's 2012AD declination.
Introduction.
"[Critias] replied: - ...one of the [Egyptian] priests...said: O Solon...There is a story, which even you have preserved, that once upon a time Phaethon, the son of Helios...burnt up all that was upon the earth... . Now this has the form of a myth, but really signifies a declination of the bodies moving in the heavens around the earth, and a great conflagration of things upon the earth, which recurs after long intervals;... .
"...after the usual interval, the stream from heaven, like a pestilence, comes pouring down, and leaves only those of you who are destitute of letters and education; and so you have to begin all over again like children..."
- Plato, "Timaeus" (Jowett transl.)(Britannica Great Books pp. 444,445)
Further results and discussion. In Part 1, I found that at 8690BC, Sirius could be sighted on the meridian at the peak of Menkaure's pyramid, while Barbarossa's 2012 sidereal position (a point in the constellation Crater) simultaneously was sighted at the peak of Khafre's. Now I also find that due to Earth's precession, this point in Crater, lies on Earth's equator, at 8602BC. It is like a code for this point of Barbarossa's orbit: the time to look, is given by the presence of the celestial equator at the peak of Khafre, when Sirius is on the meridian at the peak of Menkaure. At this time (c. 8600 BC), Barbarossa's 2012 position lies on the equator, and at the peak of Khafre. The cost of this information was two degrees of freedom in the arrangement of the pyramids.
The pyramids also were arranged (see Part 1) so that sometime when Rigel was on the meridian and at the peak of Menkaure, Regulus would be at the peak of Khafre; and sometime when Sirius was on the meridian and at Menkaure, Arcturus would be at Khufu. These dates could be accidental, not specified, and thereby provide another two degrees of freedom, in the time, so the net cost of this information is 2*2 - 2 = two degrees of freedom.
The remaining two degrees of freedom of the six available (i.e., the latitude, longitude and height of the second and third pyramids, relative to the first) were spent for redundancy in giving the position of Barbarossa in 2012AD. The ecliptic latitude of the Dec. 2012AD point, of Barbarossa's orbit, changes only a fraction of a degree during these millenia; this change is given by the formula at the bottom of p. B18 of the 1990 Astronomical Almanac. For 2000AD and 4329BC, the latitudes, of the 2012AD point, are -11.803 and -11.594deg, resp. According to Petrie's raw data (sec. 19), the break in the line on the Earth's surface between the casing centers of the pyramids, is 11.461deg. Thus Barbarossa's ecliptic latitude for 2012AD, is suggested with only 0.3deg error.
The angle upward from the peak of Menkaure to the peak of Khafre, from the data used in Part 1, is 9.472deg (neglecting the curvature of the Earth, which introduces error of order 0.01deg). My best estimate of Barbarossa's J2000.0 coordinate system declination on Dec. 21, 2012, is -9.381; in the coordinates of the equinox and ecliptic of date 2013.0, its declination is -9.453.
The dates of the pyramids. The pyramids might have been built c. 2500 BC and their layout calculated from an exact knowledge of Barbarossa's 4329BC position and sidereal orbital period, and of Earth's precession; or the pyramids might have been built earlier, maybe contemporary with the Sphinx, and merely refurbished in 2500 BC, with the addition of outer casings, sarcophagi, auxiliary temples and the like. Maybe the originals were smaller but to scale, and the final size built in 2500BC. The alignment of Sirius and Arcturus over the pyramids at 2520BC might have stimulated interest. The dates indicated by the star alignments might or might not be the dates the pyramids were built.
The purpose of the pyramids. The Rigel-Regulus and Sirius-Arcturus alignments serve to alert future scientists that "There is information about star alignments here." Then the future scientists would notice that the alignment of Sirius and the equator, implied a position where something might lie invisible, and that the Menkaure-Khafre-Khufu break angle, and Menkaure-to-Khafre peak-to-peak slope (ground, and air, geometry, resp.) of the pyramids confirm the (nearly constant) ecliptic latitude, and the 2012AD declination, resp., of this (now invisible) something.
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15 years 2 months ago #23011
by Maurol
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Maurol</i>
<b>Around the 12th century CE, the date of Earth's solstice coincided with the date of Earth's perihelion</b>.
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It could be interesting to study what other significative or rare astronomical events took place, particularly inside the solar system, around the 12th century CE.
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I meant the <b>13th</b>century, of course.
Mauro
<b>Around the 12th century CE, the date of Earth's solstice coincided with the date of Earth's perihelion</b>.
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It could be interesting to study what other significative or rare astronomical events took place, particularly inside the solar system, around the 12th century CE.
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I meant the <b>13th</b>century, of course.
Mauro
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15 years 2 months ago #23012
by Jim
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What would lots more interesting is getting the mystery about the color of Sirius cleared up. If Sirius was red at 600AD and turned white by 1200AD it might be good to look for any mention of its color from any writing on the planet. The American Indians and many Asian sources my have noted this tidbit at some point during the time from 600/1200AD. But don't expect me to search that mountain of a haystack. Maybe someone has some info from other places.
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15 years 2 months ago #23013
by Maurol
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Jim</i>
<br />What would lots more interesting is getting the mystery about the color of Sirius cleared up. If Sirius was red at 600AD and turned white by 1200AD it might be good to look for any mention of its color from any writing on the planet. The American Indians and many Asian sources my have noted this tidbit at some point during the time from 600/1200AD. But don't expect me to search that mountain of a haystack. Maybe someone has some info from other places.
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Hi Jim
you probably say this because you think that that's the only mystery that need to be resolved or cleared up, to maintain your actual worldview. If you begin to do your own research, you'll notice that there are many mysterious things in search for an explanation, not only this one.
That is, actually your worldview is made consistent by virtue of ignorance, not knowledge.
To Joe Keller: Joe, when a theory is both correct and consistent, ALL the evidence tends to add up. When a theory is incorrect, on the other side, part of the evidence will tend to add up, and another part of it with tend to contradict it. If SOMETHING does not coincide with the predictions of the theory, it is enough to falsify the theory. It's not necessary to have an statistical distribution of misses vs. hits. It is enough with one miss, to nullify the theory, in its actual form at least.
Regarding Sirius: There is no knwon mechanism in stellar evolution theory that can account for the sudden(300 years) change of color of Sirius.
We're providing a very plausible mechanism for it(Doppler shift due to change in velocity and direction), that is both gradual, and relatively quick, compared to the scale of changes in stellar evolution theory.
If the change occurred gradually over a period of centuries, no one will have noticed it. To search the literature for a repentine change, happening in the order of days, weeks or even months or years, is preposterous, because such a thing should have been noticed and recorded everywhere.
Morevoer: that same mechanism be are proposing can be used today, to measure the degree of change of the star proper motion. By taking two pictures on the same epoch of the year (at perihelion, by example) and comparing its spectra, we can deduce the change in relative velocities of both systems, if there's a change, and establish that way scientifically that we are in an orbit with that star.
The American Hopi Indians talk about a blue star, Kachina, that must appear in the sky for their prophecies to be realized.
Many different cultures and religions talk about a cycle of civilizations.
The indians talk about Yugas, the Mayans about cycles of 13 Bak'tuns. Astrology talk about the Ages, the cycles of the zodiac, theosophists talk about "globes" and "great globes", and so on. Although different on their number, duration, and names, ALL of them coincide announcing the dawning of a new era, the end of Kali Yuga.
The mayan had a calendar system, the Long Count, whose major cycle fits five times into the duration of the precessional cycle. The Hindus have a similar system of four Yugas, where each yuga has a different duration, and in total they amount to a cycle of 24000 years. The cycle of Zodiacal Ages is composed of 12 periods that, again, fit into the duration of the precessional cycle.
You can continue to deny the evidence, if you like. But as I said, your denial will be based in and related to ignorance, not knowledge.
Best regards,
Mauro Lacy
<br />What would lots more interesting is getting the mystery about the color of Sirius cleared up. If Sirius was red at 600AD and turned white by 1200AD it might be good to look for any mention of its color from any writing on the planet. The American Indians and many Asian sources my have noted this tidbit at some point during the time from 600/1200AD. But don't expect me to search that mountain of a haystack. Maybe someone has some info from other places.
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Hi Jim
you probably say this because you think that that's the only mystery that need to be resolved or cleared up, to maintain your actual worldview. If you begin to do your own research, you'll notice that there are many mysterious things in search for an explanation, not only this one.
That is, actually your worldview is made consistent by virtue of ignorance, not knowledge.
To Joe Keller: Joe, when a theory is both correct and consistent, ALL the evidence tends to add up. When a theory is incorrect, on the other side, part of the evidence will tend to add up, and another part of it with tend to contradict it. If SOMETHING does not coincide with the predictions of the theory, it is enough to falsify the theory. It's not necessary to have an statistical distribution of misses vs. hits. It is enough with one miss, to nullify the theory, in its actual form at least.
Regarding Sirius: There is no knwon mechanism in stellar evolution theory that can account for the sudden(300 years) change of color of Sirius.
We're providing a very plausible mechanism for it(Doppler shift due to change in velocity and direction), that is both gradual, and relatively quick, compared to the scale of changes in stellar evolution theory.
If the change occurred gradually over a period of centuries, no one will have noticed it. To search the literature for a repentine change, happening in the order of days, weeks or even months or years, is preposterous, because such a thing should have been noticed and recorded everywhere.
Morevoer: that same mechanism be are proposing can be used today, to measure the degree of change of the star proper motion. By taking two pictures on the same epoch of the year (at perihelion, by example) and comparing its spectra, we can deduce the change in relative velocities of both systems, if there's a change, and establish that way scientifically that we are in an orbit with that star.
The American Hopi Indians talk about a blue star, Kachina, that must appear in the sky for their prophecies to be realized.
Many different cultures and religions talk about a cycle of civilizations.
The indians talk about Yugas, the Mayans about cycles of 13 Bak'tuns. Astrology talk about the Ages, the cycles of the zodiac, theosophists talk about "globes" and "great globes", and so on. Although different on their number, duration, and names, ALL of them coincide announcing the dawning of a new era, the end of Kali Yuga.
The mayan had a calendar system, the Long Count, whose major cycle fits five times into the duration of the precessional cycle. The Hindus have a similar system of four Yugas, where each yuga has a different duration, and in total they amount to a cycle of 24000 years. The cycle of Zodiacal Ages is composed of 12 periods that, again, fit into the duration of the precessional cycle.
You can continue to deny the evidence, if you like. But as I said, your denial will be based in and related to ignorance, not knowledge.
Best regards,
Mauro Lacy
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