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21 years 8 months ago #5192 by tvanflandern
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=2 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>It is quite possible to transmit data as long as we are prepared to destroy in the process. Bob was then able to use this information and his half of the entangled beam to create an exact copy of Alice's original beam.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

This is deceptive because it implies control. Bob may indeed get an exact copy of Alice's original beam. But Alice cannot determine what goes into her beam, so no useful information can be transmitted. -|Tom|-

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21 years 8 months ago #5500 by 1234567890
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=2 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>It is quite possible to transmit data as long as we are prepared to destroy in the process. Bob was then able to use this information and his half of the entangled beam to create an exact copy of Alice's original beam.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

This is deceptive because it implies control. Bob may indeed get an exact copy of Alice's original beam. But Alice cannot determine what goes into her beam, so no useful information can be transmitted. -|Tom|-


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I think the article also failed to mention that Alice has to call bob on the phone to supply him the proper adjustments to his entangled photon to complete the "teleportation". So any information that is sent is slower than the phone call made. Very misleading article.

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21 years 8 months ago #5193 by Mac
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Tom,

Thanks for your reply. If I understand your response it is like a one way message. If so it doesn't seem that it would take much to establish multiple parallel links connected via the quantum computer technology they are proposing to create news lines back and forth as lines are destroyed.

Does that sound feasible?

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21 years 8 months ago #5194 by tvanflandern
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=2 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>If I understand your response it is like a one way message.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

No, we have no ability to control the contents of the message. So it is more like a random code that we can discover at some point, and a distant observer can then discover too. But because we could not influence the message before it was sent without destroying it, no useful information was sent.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=2 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>If so it doesn't seem that it would take much to establish multiple parallel links connected via the quantum computer technology they are proposing to create news lines back and forth as lines are destroyed. Does that sound feasible?<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

It does not sound feasible to me. However, I'm not up-to-date on the latest ideas in quantum computing. But I'm betting that there will be no long-distance FTL messages until someone figures out how to control gravitons. -|Tom|-


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21 years 8 months ago #5265 by Mac
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Tom,

Thanks. Makes sense. They saw a message but couldn't write it.

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21 years 8 months ago #5501 by Jeremy
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Tom,

I am certainly the last one to try to understand quantum phenomena but it has me wondering about a few things. This whole question of one photon "immediately" knowing what the other one is doing I find curious. If the MM already predicts particles that are doing extreme FTL speeds then why couldn't the photons simply be communicating using such particles? A sufficiently rapid communication will always be interpreted as "instantaneous".

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