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20 years 10 months ago #7937
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Mac</i>
<br />Do you have any resources or references to findings of planetary heating by gravity? ... Is there any science data showing actual heat production ...?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Part of my chapter in PG summarizes the excess heat flow measurements for Earth, Moon, and Juputer through Neptune, together with citations to sources in the technical literature. This plays a role in the whole pushing gravity scenario. If the citations will do you any good, I can send those. You will need access to a technical library to find the published articles. -|Tom|-
<br />Do you have any resources or references to findings of planetary heating by gravity? ... Is there any science data showing actual heat production ...?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Part of my chapter in PG summarizes the excess heat flow measurements for Earth, Moon, and Juputer through Neptune, together with citations to sources in the technical literature. This plays a role in the whole pushing gravity scenario. If the citations will do you any good, I can send those. You will need access to a technical library to find the published articles. -|Tom|-
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20 years 10 months ago #7939
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Tom,
Excellent. If you could send it I would greatly appreciate it. If there is a cost just let me know.
Thanks.
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Excellent. If you could send it I would greatly appreciate it. If there is a cost just let me know.
Thanks.
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20 years 8 months ago #8482
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Hi Mac,
I think that there will be an initial temperature increase when gravity squeezes matter, because the change in size will result in an increase in core temperature. But there would be nothing to drive convection currents within the core as no more gravity squeeze energy goes in.
Is this effect similar to that which Io experiences as it orbits Jupiter? As Io moves around Jupiter it gets rocked back and forth by the effects of neigbouring satellites and Jupiter's gravity. This causes it to heat up and produces volcanic activity.
www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=004x7R
Does this help?
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I think that there will be an initial temperature increase when gravity squeezes matter, because the change in size will result in an increase in core temperature. But there would be nothing to drive convection currents within the core as no more gravity squeeze energy goes in.
Is this effect similar to that which Io experiences as it orbits Jupiter? As Io moves around Jupiter it gets rocked back and forth by the effects of neigbouring satellites and Jupiter's gravity. This causes it to heat up and produces volcanic activity.
www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=004x7R
Does this help?
wisp
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20 years 8 months ago #8484
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Wisp,
I was more interested in direct heating due to energy or graviton absorbtion but thanks anyway.
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I was more interested in direct heating due to energy or graviton absorbtion but thanks anyway.
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20 years 8 months ago #8591
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Is this why the gas giants (especially Jupiter) radiate more heat than they receive from the sun?
The rate of heating would be higher for larger planets, correct? If so, then is it likely that the explosions of Planet A and Planet B resulted from runaway gravitational heating?
Is this why the gas giants (especially Jupiter) radiate more heat than they receive from the sun?
The rate of heating would be higher for larger planets, correct? If so, then is it likely that the explosions of Planet A and Planet B resulted from runaway gravitational heating?
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20 years 8 months ago #8501
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Astrodelugeologist</i>
<br />Is this why the gas giants (especially Jupiter) radiate more heat than they receive from the sun?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">The "pushing gravity" model does provide a potential source of excess heat.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">The rate of heating would be higher for larger planets, correct? If so, then is it likely that the explosions of Planet A and Planet B resulted from runaway gravitational heating?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Yes on all counts. However, blocking elysium flow would be a more important factor than mass, so all moon, planet, and star explosions might have this same cause. Our Meta Research Bulletin article on "Planetary Explosion Mechanisms" covered this material beyond what appeared in <i>Pushing Gravity</i>. -|Tom|-
<br />Is this why the gas giants (especially Jupiter) radiate more heat than they receive from the sun?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">The "pushing gravity" model does provide a potential source of excess heat.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">The rate of heating would be higher for larger planets, correct? If so, then is it likely that the explosions of Planet A and Planet B resulted from runaway gravitational heating?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Yes on all counts. However, blocking elysium flow would be a more important factor than mass, so all moon, planet, and star explosions might have this same cause. Our Meta Research Bulletin article on "Planetary Explosion Mechanisms" covered this material beyond what appeared in <i>Pushing Gravity</i>. -|Tom|-
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