zeno-particle movement with out frame of reference

I think that's the problem I find with QM also. Schrodinger's Cat is either dead or alive and not in no superposition; and the tree falls in the forest even if no one was there to hear it.Else, we live in a very schizophrenic universe.

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I see the whole thing a bit different. I don't think we have analog motion. I believe it is quantisized arond a plancks length and what is happening is that just as virtual particles appear and vanish in 1E-43seconds, each componet of our existance may be absorbed into and re-created incrementally during motion. Back to the <img src=null-set.gif border=0 align=middle>

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I see the whole thing a bit different. I don't think we have analog motion. I believe it is quantisized arond a plancks length and what is happening is that just as virtual particles appear and vanish in 1E-43seconds, each componet of our existance may be absorbed into and re-created incrementally during motion. Back to the <img src=null-set.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Problem I have with virtual motion is that of continuity- how can these virtual particles remember their state functions to continue in their paths after they come back into existence? I'm not sure this virtual particle stuff is related to Schrodinger's cat though, which is what I found difficult to accept. I don't disagree that observation affects the state of things but I think these states are well defined even prior to measurement. If not, how can there be harmony in the universe? The universe exists the same as much for a blind person as one with sight, is my belief.




Imagine if you were an electron- don't you think it would help to know you were spin up or spin down before some spin up electron bumps into you? How could you possibly know how to react to everything around you if you don't even know yourself?

I don't think true quantum teleportation can be ruled out though since the entangled pairs may well have non-local communication skills. But I truly doubt superposition has anything to do with this if it is found to be possible to manipulate an entangled pair to specified states. No, one should more reasonably interpret this as true changes in states that were well defined prior to manipulation.

"Superposition" is a concept that says more about our limited ability in measurement than it does the real state of things, imo.

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Not sure I see the same problem or that particle entanglement is related to the motion via absorbtion and recreation in quantum jumps.

I agree that motion by that means must recreate exactly what was absorbed. Virtual particles come into existance and vanish all the time. So the jprocess is known to be occuring.

The particle pairs may well have pre-ordained properties. The problem is that we don't know those properties unless we attemptto measure them and when we do we destroy the entanglement. We have not yet figured out how to create entanglement in a manner that we control what is produced. It seems random and therefore not useful as a messenger system.