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<br />AND ONCE AGAIN FOR THE FINALITY OF THIS DISCUSSION PERTINENT TO THE ANOMALIES SEEN ON MARS. WITHOUT THE KNOWN REALITY OF THE TARGET DATA POINT ON THE MARTIAN SURFACE - NO PAREIDOLIA IN ANY OF ITS FORMS DESCRIBED ABOVE CAN BE APPLIED OR OTHERWISE INSINUATED TO AND OF THE OBSERVER
Malcolm Scott
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">The same can be said about Art or Intelligent Life on Mars, thusly:
And once again, for the finality of this discussion pertinent to the Art and Intelligent life Anomaly Hunters think they're finding in the Martian Landscape, without the known reality of the target data point on the Martian surface, NO Art in any of its forms described above can be claimed or otherwise insinuated to and of the observer, with out PROOF. THE DATA MUST BE KNOWN, and so far it's just fuzzy pictures.
No difference.
We can speculate: It's probably art, or it's probably pareidolia, but that's as far as it goes.
We say it's all probably pareidolia that the AOH Hunters are experiencing as they peruse the rich Martian Landscape. Only time will tell.
rd
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Oh this is getting to be a bloody joke! Every time the issue of the validity of pareidolia (various) is discussed, the attempt to rework the main point is twisted, side stepped, camouflaged or belittled.
Where have the artificiality researchers all gone, am I the only one left who is prepared to put up with this Pareidolic nonsense? May be so. The last decent mind had enough of this some time back - Zip Monster and I quote:
December 18, 2013
Sorry Derosa, but this thread is as dead Pareidolia
Good by
Zip Monster
In my opinion, I'm getting to the point where this site is being single underhandedly sabotaged.
My drive here is to expose this nonsense for what it is...so I'll have another last bash at it.
1. Pareidolia in all its forms is a scientific method which requires a "control". That control is; that the reality of the target data point MUST BE KNOWN IN ORDER TO EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT THE OBSERVER IS EXPERIENCING A PARIEDOLIC EPISODE OR NOT. WITHOUT THIS "CONTROL" THE SCIENTIFIC PROCESS OF PARIEDOLIA CANNOT BE PERFORMED, EVALUATED OR EVEN INSINUATED. IT IS UNSCIENTIFIC TO PROPOSE OTHERWISE.
2. As all of the current data provided by the MRO HiRise image files cannot be verified as "KNOWN RECOGNIZABLE DATA TARGETS" with respect to any proposed anomalies, all that can be achieved presently, is to speculate and/or hypothesize as to their origins. Speculative theories are good, healthy and positive and can lead to possible breakthroughs into new realities.
On the other hand...
The insinuation that every time a new find is captured in the MRO images, the observer is is pounced on with an insinuation that "you are only experiencing a personal dilemma brought about by pareidolia" .....in one form or another. WHAT CRAP!
THIS IS AN INSULT TO THE INTELLIGENCE AND THE INTEGRITY OF THE RESEARCHER AND BY ALL ACCOUNTS, MOST HAVE LEFT THIS SITE DUE TO ONE OR TWO HENCHMEN POISED AT THE GATE. DO YOU THINK WE ARE SO STUPID NOT TO SEE RIGHT THROUGH THIS....REALLY?
I will state here once again for the record (as after this, I feel pretty confident my membership privileges will thus be suspended) I have zero problem of this subject (Pareidolia) being discussed but in it rightful forum of "Terrestrial Science" where it belongs and propose this entire thread be moved there - zoot capri!
A final word, if I were TVF and seeing what has become of this site, I would be ashamed. He set this site up to scientifically evaluate the Meta Research of strangeness and anomalies of our universe which includes a visual assessment of our closest planetary neighbor Mars. We spent over 40 million dollars on a 3D imaging camera and sent it there for one purpose and one purpose alone and that was allow human beings to visually see the fantastic nature of the Martian surface and we were successful in that venture!
But what do we get when we observe those images on this social science website..."Oh no....you're just seeing things...it's all in your mind....it's.....pareidooooooliahhh!"
Wake up!
Malcolm Scott
