The Big Bang never happened

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Question, Just one more question Patrick; when were the Laws of Physics established? bbb, (before big bang) or atb (after time began).
Answer, They were established when there was something physical to observe AND something physical to observe them. The answer is AFTER the BANG. Prior to the BANG all that existed was PURE (E).
The Laws of physics did not start until “AFTER the BANG”?

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The laws of physics are Laws that are not time related.

You are assuming that the Big Bang theory has Merit. Looking at all the problems with the Big Bang. You have high hopes.

Asking the question " when were the laws of physics established" is out of place and time.As a matter of fact its a matter of opinion.



Harry

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">In a few more years,,,,,all this Hog Wash ,,,,,smile will be swept under the carpet.

The Big Bang,,,,,,,,,,,,, out the window.

People thinking that there is an origin to the universe,,,,,out the window.

That energy was here before the formation of the universe,,,,out the window.


Years gone by, scientists once they discovered that the oceanic plates were only a few hundred million years compared to the continental plates being a few billion years. Were dum founded until someone explained that oceanic trenches recycle faster than continental plates. Therefore there dating material also got recyled.

I will lay all my cards on recyling rather than try to invent models that fit to my liking as to the workings of the universe which I call the Ongoing Universe.

Smile,,,,,,,,,I may have the ace up my sleeve just incase.


Keep Well

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So you know a little about the earth, eh Harry? Well I got one for you, how come, if the heavy elements are made in super nova's, how come there's a mountain of iron in Michigan? How come we find collections of metals? If everything came from "gas and dust" why aren't the metals dispersed?

PS, Recycling...There's this notion of "systemics" that has vbeen kicked around is certain fields of science. A trait of some systems is recursive feedback. Sounds a lot like your "recycling". In fact the whole idea of a system is very close, although "oncycling" might be closer. It would be interesting to conceptualize the cosmic processes in terms of systemic relationships.

Tommy

Hello Tommy

Refer to these links

www.thesurfaceofthesun.com/
antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap960521.html
fusedweb.pppl.gov/CPEP/Chart_Pages/5.Plasmas/SunLayers.html

hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/astro/nucsyn.html#c1
hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/astro/snovcn.html#c2

Iron

Iron found in sedimentary rocks as iron ore was laid millions of years ago by microscopic bugs.The atmosphere at the time had little oxygen. The oceans had the oxygen and the microbes took in the Iron and the oxygen than dieing dropping to the bottom of the ocean.

Iron is the prime reason why the star sheds its outer layer and in many cases continues to develop again another skin.

Happy New Year

Harry

Does anyone know the relationship between time and space? A physics professor from my college explained it to me this way. Time slows down in relation to space because light is bent by gravity. The big bang may or may not have happened. However if space and time are curvered then our universe is circular and finite. Creationism to me is not impossible if there is a creator. Foreveris and creationism still have a god in my mind this is a matter I would like to further discuss. However, the big bang theory is full of emotion something Harry would say. I have based my solar system idea mostly on things that I understand to be true. Even if they are found to be false 500 years from now at least I tried to explain the world around me. The big bang to me is like creating nothing into something. Newton says you can not create or destroy energy. What some people may or may not have observed is the creation of matter in a steady state theory that I read about three years ago. I am sorry that I do not recall the article or the contents other than the fact that I read it as saying things appear in the universe out of knowwhere can someone confirm this because I am curious to know.
Ryan

ryan Henningsgaard

Hello Ryan

Time and space has been complicated by the idea that the actual time changes and in a black hole time remains at zero.

Light travels at the speed of light and we use it to calculate time because it is a constant.

Time is relative to were you stand.

If I was, lets say 1 light year from earth the time message received from earth will be 1 year late. The actual time is the same.

The same thing with a Black Hole if you were in it time will remain constant because light is unable to escape. The actual time whether your in or out is the same.

Time does not change only the message changes depending if the light is slowed down or bent.

Many cosmoligist talk about space and time and different dimensions and santa clause at Xmas.
It's up to you to study more and feel and understand the facts.

Lets put it another way.

What ever happens in a black box it does not change time around it or within.

Light speed can be slowed down by gravity and by electromagnetic forces and therefore the message time will alter. High density plasma will slow down the speed of light even to zero, called the Event Horizon.

I'm off to bed,,,,,,,,,,nite



Harry

Hello Ryan

Time and space has been complicated by the idea that the actual time changes and in a black hole time remains at zero.

Light travels at the speed of light and we use it to calculate time because it is a constant.

Time is relative to were you stand.

If I was, lets say 1 light year from earth the time message received from earth will be 1 year late. The actual time is the same.

The same thing with a Black Hole if you were in it time will remain constant because light is unable to escape. The actual time whether your in or out is the same.

Time does not change only the message changes depending if the light is slowed down or bent.

Many cosmoligist talk about space and time and different dimensions and santa clause at Xmas.
It's up to you to study more and feel and understand the facts.

Lets put it another way.

What ever happens in a black box it does not change time around it or within.

Light speed can be slowed down by gravity and by electromagnetic forces and therefore the message time will alter. High density plasma will slow down the speed of light even to zero, called the Event Horizon.

One more thing sun spots the speed of light is reduced by the convectional gravitational forces going into the sun spot. reducing the amout off light escaping and therefore making it look dull and cooler.

I'm off to bed,,,,,,,,,,nite



Harry