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18 years 11 months ago #14392
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[GD] "(Larry: if I deleted comments, it is for that reason: for no one to see.)"
None of the material I deleted seems important to the discussion, so unless you make a specific request I will not restore any of it.
LB
None of the material I deleted seems important to the discussion, so unless you make a specific request I will not restore any of it.
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18 years 11 months ago #12919
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Thanks Larry.
For the standard definition of equilibrium, I chose an arbitrary internet site: www.answers.com/topic/dynamic-equilibrium
Which states:
"1. A condition in which all acting influences are canceled by others, resulting in a stable, balanced, or unchanging system."
This traditional explanation denotes how equilibrium seems to be achieved by opposing the force of gravity. I have defined it as something which excludes gravity. Do you see the difference?
Here is one example to describe the non-equilibrium force of gravity: the human body has evolved with time in such a way to counteract a degenerative force such as Gravity for approximately 80-90 years (and today this longevity is acquired with the help of medicine).
<b>A system does not remain stable, balanced, and unchanging over TIME</b>!
This is why it accelerates. This is Gravity: the non-equilibrium state of any system.
My first impression of Einstein's naming his work " Theory of Relativity" was that it meant exactly - <b>everything is relative</b> - I was surprised to find out that it was not what he meant.
The standard definition is: relative to any inertial frame, physical properties do not change.
My interpretation: everything is relative to <u>acceleration</u>.
A (natural)system which accelerates has <u>less</u> free energy.
This is why physical properties of a system do change with position and/or time.
Please guys, stop asking me questions. I am trying to finish this.
For the standard definition of equilibrium, I chose an arbitrary internet site: www.answers.com/topic/dynamic-equilibrium
Which states:
"1. A condition in which all acting influences are canceled by others, resulting in a stable, balanced, or unchanging system."
This traditional explanation denotes how equilibrium seems to be achieved by opposing the force of gravity. I have defined it as something which excludes gravity. Do you see the difference?
Here is one example to describe the non-equilibrium force of gravity: the human body has evolved with time in such a way to counteract a degenerative force such as Gravity for approximately 80-90 years (and today this longevity is acquired with the help of medicine).
<b>A system does not remain stable, balanced, and unchanging over TIME</b>!
This is why it accelerates. This is Gravity: the non-equilibrium state of any system.
My first impression of Einstein's naming his work " Theory of Relativity" was that it meant exactly - <b>everything is relative</b> - I was surprised to find out that it was not what he meant.
The standard definition is: relative to any inertial frame, physical properties do not change.
My interpretation: everything is relative to <u>acceleration</u>.
A (natural)system which accelerates has <u>less</u> free energy.
This is why physical properties of a system do change with position and/or time.
Please guys, stop asking me questions. I am trying to finish this.
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18 years 11 months ago #12923
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I'd hate to live where you live. Here in Dallas the situation is different.
There are thousands of systems in my home that do remain stable, balanced and unchanging over time. Some of the most interesting and useful of these systems have the ability to be in one of several stable, balanced and unchanging states depending on my wishes.
LB
There are thousands of systems in my home that do remain stable, balanced and unchanging over time. Some of the most interesting and useful of these systems have the ability to be in one of several stable, balanced and unchanging states depending on my wishes.
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18 years 11 months ago #12928
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I am ready to bet that your air conditioning unit is the home appliance you are using the most. Have you heard of global warming?
This is just a temporary thing right? Like turning the knob to "on"?
Is this the equilibrium you are talking about?
So there you are: there are <b>two</b> non-equilibrium systems: man made & natural.
Just having fun. []
This is just a temporary thing right? Like turning the knob to "on"?
Is this the equilibrium you are talking about?
So there you are: there are <b>two</b> non-equilibrium systems: man made & natural.
Just having fun. []
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18 years 11 months ago #12931
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[GD] "I am ready to bet that your air conditioning unit is the home appliance you are using the most."
Not even close, so I'll take that bet.
[GD] "This is just a temporary thing right?"
Well duh. What else could it be?
[GD] "Just having fun."
Trolling is a strange way to get your cookies. You don't really expect us to believe that you believe that a system must be unchanged for all of eternity before it can be in equilibrium? So, what are you actually trying to do here?
Not even close, so I'll take that bet.
[GD] "This is just a temporary thing right?"
Well duh. What else could it be?
[GD] "Just having fun."
Trolling is a strange way to get your cookies. You don't really expect us to believe that you believe that a system must be unchanged for all of eternity before it can be in equilibrium? So, what are you actually trying to do here?
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18 years 11 months ago #12932
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[quote You don't really expect us to believe that you believe that a system must be unchanged for all of eternity before it can be in equilibrium? So, what are you actually trying to do here?
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Exactly my point: a system that changes over time is not in equilibrium.
Non-equilibrium system = entropy increasing system.
For example: the solar system had more free energy 3 billion years ago than today.
Also, this could explain the highest gamma ray bursts ever recorded originated from the early universe (11-12 billion light years away) where free energy from the atom was at its highest level.
This theory also suggests that our sun's maximum activity coincides with peaks in acceleration as the solar system moves (accelerates?) within the galaxy.
Here is how Gravity affects a resemblance of eternity:
Humans: approx. 80 years
Human species: approx. 100's million years ??
Solar system: approx. 2-3 billion years left(Milky Way galaxy will merge with the Andromeda galaxy in approx. 3 billion years)
Universe: 15-20 billion years from now ???
Gravity is an entropy increasing phenomenon.
Do you agree ?
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Exactly my point: a system that changes over time is not in equilibrium.
Non-equilibrium system = entropy increasing system.
For example: the solar system had more free energy 3 billion years ago than today.
Also, this could explain the highest gamma ray bursts ever recorded originated from the early universe (11-12 billion light years away) where free energy from the atom was at its highest level.
This theory also suggests that our sun's maximum activity coincides with peaks in acceleration as the solar system moves (accelerates?) within the galaxy.
Here is how Gravity affects a resemblance of eternity:
Humans: approx. 80 years
Human species: approx. 100's million years ??
Solar system: approx. 2-3 billion years left(Milky Way galaxy will merge with the Andromeda galaxy in approx. 3 billion years)
Universe: 15-20 billion years from now ???
Gravity is an entropy increasing phenomenon.
Do you agree ?
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