Antigravity Research

Hi John, It's been years since I did anything on statistical probabilities. I imagine that the argument about the sample size will rumble on for a good while. Longo's sample started off as 40,000 spirals and was then reduced to about 2000 because of the need to meet certain red shift and absolute magnitude criteria. I would imagine that the two data sets would have been compared, just to see if there was a trend in the skew of the graph. That comparison would not be allowed as any sort of evidence but it would be good for confidence.

I would think that the funding for this project would be tied to the percentage probability as the sample number grows. The project is based in Oxford, there's lots of funding there but there's also lots of competition for it. Now, it does sound as though funding is in place for the next phase of the project. They have telescope time, and the people doing work on polarization near the axis of evil, have super computer time.

At the moment, we can't do anything but wait for the new data. We should think about it though, as if it does show itself to be real, then it would be a major shake up to cosmology.

I'm going to do some reading up on error theory. If this thing has legs then we all need to know about it.

The debate is going to be in the context of the big bang. This guy is arguing the case for a magnetic, cross universe, "fluid." So, let's say we have a universe which is about 28 billion light years across. How does this fluid keep in touch with itself? With an ftl gravity "fluid" the universe is is a baby, under two years old, and very probably less than that. In fact Wheeler put forward the suggestion that in order for the information coming from the "edge" of the universe to be understandable, we have to think of it as being at the Compton wavelength. He was, I think, thinking in terms of quantum entanglement from the big bang though.

A sudden thought about that. The speed of gravity might vary in direct proportion to the radius. Nah, I'll forget that in favour of an easy life [8D][]

Hi Stoat, in a multiple scale Universe in which our visible portion is a MEGA galactic structure among many MEGA structures, there will be an infinity of MEGAVERSES that communicate by an inverse mirror or a subscale reverse upside down pyramid of exceedingly higher frequency higher speed communications as if the smallest particle were from an original source and center. However, this first source particle operates as a BEC and is UNIVERSAL [operates at such extreme speeds and frequencies it would defy any known understandings of physics]. All subscales are an inverse mirror of greater circulations because these structured rotations are a cascade from a higher frequency higher speed operating portion of Universe.

Our visible Universe, this bandwidth of lightspeed energy was originally formed as a cascade from a higher frequency above light speed scale of motion. The plasma cascade divided into opposing rotating forward and reverse motion domains of matter and antimatter. This subscale motion now contains original higher frequency material within its atomic substructure from the beginning of time, in other words the oldest structures in the Universe are not out there they are internal extreme frequency particles that move at such extreme speeds that these particles will never be seen at light speed wavelengths!!! Again, the ISODUAL model comes into play and all these rotations are balanced between a forward and reverse motion matter and antimatter Universe.

What ever Big Bang theory modifications that they come up with to explain a local "Axis of Evil" will attempt to keep a Big Bang theory alive. However, in an infinite Universe there is no end or edge, there is only a vastness of MEGA rotating structures that do have edges and operate as single entities and these ISO-DUAL structures are in balanced rotations with a reverse rotation MEGA reverse time domains. John

Still early days John, I get the impression that its rather like the new kid on the block, comes to play in the sand pit. This guy Longo is a particle physicist, and he gets time on all of the toys!! Grr... As soon as the adults clear the room ya just know there's going to be trouble.

This sort of thing appeals to me greatly [}][}][][8D]

(Edited) I mentioned this in the pub last night, not an ecstatic reaction. Grave things were talked about, like the merits of the Brussels sprout. One rather arch comment was, "then I suppose the hubble replacement is going to be cheaper then?" Ah, the cynicism of the common man! the bane of we gallant few. If Jacob had drank with my mates he would never have invented the ladder.

Thinking about that idea that the speed of gravity is directly proportional to the radius of the universe. I don't think it breaks any causality rules. When I looked at the conserved charge of an electron, I got a ball park figure of about 18 billion c. larry pointed out that the speed of gravity had to be at least 20 billion c. Wheeler is really suggesting a speed of trillions of times c. So let's say that someone in Edinburgh, and someone in York, set off in their cars to London. They both arrive in London at the same time but the sound of their car engines takes a few days to arrive, and the engine sound fo the York car arrives first.

Wow! I'll have to stay off the Glen Morange for a while. We celebrate the new year in my part of the world, so enthusiastically that we de evolve back to sea cucumbers. [][xx(]

Hi Stoat, I always look forward to your posts! One of these days I will join you in your pub!!! I agree the suppression from GR and SR academia is so bad it protects black project boys that operate above those laws. It is like they keep us in kindergarden and not only will they not give us their advanced toys to play with, but they make us play in the dark! It is unfortunate that free thinkers are scorned, here is an example of suppression from existing system that holds back scientific advancement---Dr. Santilli was kicked out of Harvard:

"Orthodox scientists all over the world are even more opposed than politicians to Santilli’s as well as any other method which would permit the recycling in loco of nuclear waste via its stimulated decay. This is due to the fact that the alteration of the meanlife of nuclear waste would constitute direct and incontrovertible evidence of a violation of Einstein’s special relativity and quantum mechanics. In this way, for different reasons, politicians and academicians have a strong bond for opposing qualified scientific studies in this huge societal problem.

In fact, the pillar of special relativity, the Poincare’ symmetry, predicts that composite systems such as nuclei have unchangeable and immutable characteristics. Moreover, Santilli’s recycling of nuclear waste is based on certain resonating effects acting on “nonpotential and nonhamiltonian” forces, that is, forces of contact, zero-range type which are dramatically outside Einsteinian doctrines, the latter being solely potential-hamiltonian as well known since first year graduate studies in physics. Therefore, the sole “consideration” of Santilli’s resonating mechanisms to stimulate the decay of nuclear waste is pure “anathema” for orthodox academicians, since it implies the admission of limitations of these beloved doctrines, with evident huge damage to the academic, financial and ethnic interests that have been organized on Einsteinian doctrine during the 20th century.

As despicable examples of academic opposition, this author feels obliged to report the organized opposition to Santilli’s research at Harvard University, particularly due to Harvard’s physicists Misters S. Coleman, S. Weinberg and S. Glashow. It is well known, amply documented and internationally denounced that these guys forced the termination at Harvard of Professor Santilli’s research, despite the availability at that time of large grants from the U.S. Department of Energy.

As other “gems” of human, let alone scientific misbehavior, Mister Griffits, Director of the Institute for Advanced Studies in Princeton, New Jersey, U.S.A., PROHIBITED Professor Santilli to visit the IAS “at his own expenses” for the presentation of the basic theories underlying the new recycling, even though the theories had been just published in the prestigious Foundations of Physics Letters (see the references below), and had been invited for presentation at the VIII Marcel Grossmann Meeting on General Relativity in Jerusalem in June 1997!!! To understand the hysteria underlying the case, one should note that, in his capacity as Director of the Institute for Advanced Studies, Mister Griffits was fully aware that, in prohibiting Prof. Santilli to visit the Institute at his own cost, HE VIOLATED THE US LAW, because of evident discrimination in operations under public financial support. In fact, Mister Griffits knows well that he prohibited the visit by a scientist who has been recommended for the Nobel Prize since 1985 for his achievements, while he readily permitted the visit of other scientists with comparatively insignificant achievements, which is a vulgar violation of U.S. Laws by the Institute for Advanced Studies, let alone scientific corruption.

Similarly, in 1992 Mister Renato Angelo Ricci, President of the Italian Physical Society, in his additional capacity of Director of the Italian Laboratory in Legnaro, PROHIBITED IN WRITING Professor Santilli to visit “at his own expenses” the Lengaro laboratory, Italy, to recommend the basic experiment underlying his recycling (the possibility to stimulate the decay of the neutron), even though Prof. Santilli was on his way back from an invited presentation of the background theory at CERN, Geneva, Switzerland. Along similar lines, Mister Iarocci, then Director of the Italian National Laboratories in Frascati, Italy (and now Director of the Italian money line for research, the Istituto Nazionale Fisica Nucleare), also PROHIBITED, Professor Santilli to present the same basic experiment to the leading Italian laboratory, in full, documented knowledge that the recycling of nuclear waste is one of the biggest duties of that laboratory. Along similar lines, thanks to full cooperation by corrupt local politicians, equivocal figures of the academic community in Rome, Italy, forced the closure of a division of the Institute for Basic Research at the Castle Prince Pignatelli in the region Molise, Italy, which division had been organized precisely for the study of the recycling of nuclear and other waste. The list of documented academic opposition against democracy of qualified scientific inquiries is so huge to be a real shame for contemporary society.

However, unlike other walks of life, quantitative scientific studies have their revenge against corruption. In fact, nowadays Santilli’s methods for the recycling of “liquid” waste (see www.santillimagnegas.com ) are now under “industrial production and sale”, let alone development, while the corresponding methods for the recycling of nuclear waste, which are based on the same nonpotential principles, have already received a direct experimental verification."

www.nuclearwasterecycling.com/

The graviton is only the first level of communications just beyond the speed of light, and if speed of motion is an indication of size of this next scale up then it has to dwarf our MEGAVERSE. The GRAVITON collapsing field is again embedded in a greater motion SUPER MEGAVERSE that operates at even higher frequencies and at larger scales of motion. There are no limits to speed of motion in Universe. John

Why couldn't the speed of gravity be something simple, like c^3? It has to be somewhere in that range to account for planetary gravitational effects and the the number might reflect acceleration increase in three dimensions. It could also account for communication within the galaxy; making the trip across in about a quarter second, it is analagous to a nerve impulse in a body. Nobody disbelieves chemistry and physics on that scale, why not biology?