Postulate: No Two Suns Have Ever Collided

Meta,

I have no photos or data to counter your claim that it has never happened, however, I would have to say statistically that it surely has and will again.

First you must be clear on what you mean by collide. Two billiard balls never collide either but rebound from columb force repulsion.

Do I think it is possible that two bodies of the trillions moving in space have ever had a direct collision? "Yes".

Do I think it is likely "quite possibly".

Will we ever see direct evidence. Not likely and I hope not if it is our planet or sun.

Knowing to believe only half of what you hear is a sign of intelligence. Knowing which half to believe can make you a genius.

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<br />Meta,

I have no photos or data to counter your claim that it has never happened, however, I would have to say statistically that it surely has and will again.

Meta: The problem with this claim of the probability that is has happened is that statistics and computers running scripts of universal dynamics is a model that does not include the real dynamics of universe so the garbage they get out is the garbage they put in.

First you must be clear on what you mean by collide. Two billiard balls never collide either but rebound from columb force repulsion.

Meta: Others have brought this up, also. I'll reiterate here, that no two of anything has ever truly collided, especially two of similar constitution, because of the very strong forces at the atomic level of atoms. It is an impossibility to actually collide.

Do I think it is possible that two bodies of the trillions moving in space have ever had a direct collision? "Yes".

Meta: Because probability studies tell you it is possible and computer modelling tells you that you have some universal dynamics programmed into it, does not give a certainty that it is a total model from which you can make certain predictions. Direct collision is a probability but not an actuality because of the Van Der Wall forces within mass. Models can never, has never and will never be able to model the whole dynamics of universe.

Do I think it is likely "quite possibly".

Meta: And thats all it tells you. You're "probably" guessing.

Will we ever see direct evidence. Not likely and I hope not if it is our planet or sun.

Meta: I can say for certain you will never see a real picture of two like objects colliding directly. It is an impossibility.

Knowing to believe only half of what you hear is a sign of intelligence. Knowing which half to believe can make you a genius.
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Meta,

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ANS: And you are not??? HeHeHeHe,



Knowing to believe only half of what you hear is a sign of intelligence. Knowing which half to believe can make you a genius.

Ok, look... While it may not be possible for any two objects to collide, unless of course they somehow melded and fused together, i think it is possible for 2 suns to, how shall i put it, run into eachother. There is a reason that noone has ever seen it happen, or has ever gotten photographic proof.

a)those stars are REALLY REALLY far away, so even if you could see something that resembled it, all you would see is 2 dots really close to eachother.
b)do you know how big of a sky that is?!?

It could have happened tons of times without us even knowing it because, lets face it, humans aren't the all knowing and all powerful people we like to think we are.

Oh, and what's up with the whole ancient mythology stuff? do you know how much stuff we have already disproven that was once thought of as absolute fact? sorry to burst your bubble there meta, but yes, i think it is possible.


Marks of wisdom can come from even the most unlikely sources.

Origin,

As far as stars colliding, I agree they can and most likely have.

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ANS; I smell religion here. We aren't being very scientific when we do that.

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ANS: That is the difference between science and religious dogma. Science changes with evidence and any true scientis knows and recognizes our limitations to know even a little much less everything.

That is why science is one up on religious dogma. religion doesn't change regardless of the evidence.


"Imagination is more important than Knowledge" -- Albert Einstien

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<br />Ok, look... While it may not be possible for any two objects to collide, unless of course they somehow melded and fused together, i think it is possible for 2 suns to, how shall i put it, run into eachother. There is a reason that noone has ever seen it happen, or has ever gotten photographic proof.

Meta: No it not possible. It is as impossible for two of anything similar to run into each other. You simply want to hope that it is rather than recognize what is. Thats not a scientific attitude.

a)those stars are REALLY REALLY far away, so even if you could see something that resembled it, all you would see is 2 dots really close to eachother.
b)do you know how big of a sky that is?!?

Meta: I believe a massive explosion would be readily apparent if two suns ever ran into each other, no matter how far away.

It could have happened tons of times without us even knowing it because, lets face it, humans aren't the all knowing and all powerful people we like to think we are.

Meta: Could have, should have, would have...the reality is....it hasent.

Oh, and what's up with the whole ancient mythology stuff? do you know how much stuff we have already disproven that was once thought of as absolute fact? sorry to burst your bubble there meta, but yes, i think it is possible.

Meta: While adhering to a science that has shown ancient mythology to be allegory for hidden coding, why adhere also to that which you hope is correct about similar objects rather than the reality of those similar objects? What made you assume suns and planets could ever collide when you have never seen one shread of evidence or proof that it happened?


Marks of wisdom can come from even the most unlikely sources.
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