Neural Geometry

Hi EBTX,

Beliefs influence what we think. Our minds construct a belief of a geometrical model of our world based in part on sensory input. I believe this model exerts a powerful limiting influence on our imagination.

I hope this example better clarifies the topic for those who wish to discuss it

Example: Remove the belief of motion from your worldview, and then reconstruct your worldview without it. Your mind will be forced to search and find a new path of thought that might lead to a new belief that nothing in the universe has ever moved.

My personal staring point wasn’t questioning motion but reading the English translation of Einstein’s worldview where he talked about questioning the foundations of geometry. It inspired me.

Duane Brown

Yes, you could imagine no motion ... but ... you would have to replace it with something which would do the same thing in another way ... and ... that new thing would be more complicated and harder to deal with. That is, a rose by any other name is still a rose.

Unless the new thing simplifies, it is of little use. I can't imagine anything simpler than accepting basic sensory data as true. It is uninfluenced by anyone's personal preferences since it is acquired prior to any extensive "self-knowledge".

In short, I accept something like the concept of "extension" in three dimensions even though one might conceive of the world as being played out on the surface of a sphere surrounding an individual's head (which is how we must initially perceive it in the fetal or infant stage).

Everyone:

I have modified the topics post to address some points. Thank you your interaction.

Duane Brown

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<br />DWB,

HeHe. I would have to say your first assumption is false. That is that all people have such preconcieved notions.......
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Mac:

Do you really think that being "completely immersed" in the very thing you are trying to study puts you in any way on an objective footing?

Duane Brown

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Do you really think that being "completely immersed" in the very thing you are trying to study puts you in any way on an objective footing?

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I really don't understand the question or where it comes from in relation to my posts.

But I would have to say being to close to ones work generally inhibits the ability to visualize or reinterprete data. That is where data may have several explanations, the only one that generally gets notice is the one that confirms the preconcieved concept.


"Imagination is more important than Knowledge" -- Albert Einstien

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I really don't understand the question or where it comes from in relation to my posts.
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Mac:

I believe that communication is listening, without judgment, without interruption, with an open mind, trying to understand the other person’s world. I promise to do better at this.

Since 1984, I have been working on a geometry that is pointless (no concept of a point). The hardest thing is to challenge beliefs we have about space itself. We find ourselves “completely immersed” in the very space that we want to study and understand. Our minds have already put together a set of beliefs about space which influences us in ways we may or may not be aware of. The set of beliefs our minds form for us may or may not be right, irregardless, that does not negate the fact that we are influenced by those beliefs and they place limits our imagination, therefore, our objective footing is put into question. We need to question the very assumptions that our minds have placed before us in addition to the theoretical underpinnings of the theories we create.


Duane Brown