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10 years 8 months ago #22451
by Marsevidence01
Replied by Marsevidence01 on topic Reply from Malcolm Scott
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by rderosa</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Marsevidence01</i>
<br />As of this moment, we have not addressed these "concave" undulations on the premise that the method of "light balance" i.e. inversion factor was fabricated rendering further analysis "null and void".
Malcolm Scott
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">But there's more. I still have no idea whatsofreakingever what any of this stuff has to do with the supposed alien life. Even if you were right to invert it, what does it prove?
<font color="red">Then we need to review the concave topography and assess the details.</font id="red">
Undulations? <font color="red">My word just meaning "the lay of the land" mountains/valleys </font id="red">
I'm reminded of a scene in a Woody Allen move where Diane Keaton is helping Woody push the Volkswagen over the cliff. She says, "Did you know that 'God' spelled backwards is D-O-G?" As if this was a major revelation. Woody sort of smacks his lips and says, "Yeah...and?"
That's how I feel about all the stuff you posted so far...<i>Yeah...and?...</i>
rd
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<font color="red">Yes yes, I get it and that's because you don't. No worries Rich, I'm not trying to convert you....I really do understand your position better than what you think.</font id="red">
<font color="red">I'm out for the next two days so won't get back here till Friday</font id="red">
Malcolm Scott
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Marsevidence01</i>
<br />As of this moment, we have not addressed these "concave" undulations on the premise that the method of "light balance" i.e. inversion factor was fabricated rendering further analysis "null and void".
Malcolm Scott
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">But there's more. I still have no idea whatsofreakingever what any of this stuff has to do with the supposed alien life. Even if you were right to invert it, what does it prove?
<font color="red">Then we need to review the concave topography and assess the details.</font id="red">
Undulations? <font color="red">My word just meaning "the lay of the land" mountains/valleys </font id="red">
I'm reminded of a scene in a Woody Allen move where Diane Keaton is helping Woody push the Volkswagen over the cliff. She says, "Did you know that 'God' spelled backwards is D-O-G?" As if this was a major revelation. Woody sort of smacks his lips and says, "Yeah...and?"
That's how I feel about all the stuff you posted so far...<i>Yeah...and?...</i>
rd
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<font color="red">Yes yes, I get it and that's because you don't. No worries Rich, I'm not trying to convert you....I really do understand your position better than what you think.</font id="red">
<font color="red">I'm out for the next two days so won't get back here till Friday</font id="red">
Malcolm Scott
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10 years 8 months ago #22180
by rderosa
Replied by rderosa on topic Reply from Richard DeRosa
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Marsevidence01</i>
<br />Here is a .png of the HiRISE anaglyph showing the location in the green square with the clip is located.
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Malcolm Scott
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OK, this "thing" you have posted here <b> is in fact a NEGATIVE. </b>
But the $64,000 question is: <b>Where did it come from??</b>
Click on this link. This is the .png of the HiRISE anaglyph <b>at their website:</b>
hirise-pds.lpl.arizona.edu/PDS/EXTRAS/AN..._1795_RED.browse.png
It looks like this:
Here's what I think. I think you're spending so much time talking about this stuff, and you have so much vested in the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, that you've lost track of what you're doing along the way.
You just proved that you're not even using the right downloaded image (or you already modified it and lost track of your mod) thereby making me the winner of the bet.
We like our steaks medium, with only a hint of pink, but cooked all the way through. No hang on a minute, instead of steak, let's make it <b>seafood at Scotts Seafood, Jack London Sq, Oakland. Their service is excellent and the cioppino is devine!</b>
www.scottsjls.com/
P.S. All of your other analysis has been rendered moot by this. I see no benefit in analyzing a negative.
For more proof, here is the grayscale map-projected from the same website:
hirise-pds.lpl.arizona.edu/PDS/EXTRAS/RD...1795_RED.abrowse.jpg
rd
<br />Here is a .png of the HiRISE anaglyph showing the location in the green square with the clip is located.
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Malcolm Scott
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
OK, this "thing" you have posted here <b> is in fact a NEGATIVE. </b>
But the $64,000 question is: <b>Where did it come from??</b>
Click on this link. This is the .png of the HiRISE anaglyph <b>at their website:</b>
hirise-pds.lpl.arizona.edu/PDS/EXTRAS/AN..._1795_RED.browse.png
It looks like this:
Here's what I think. I think you're spending so much time talking about this stuff, and you have so much vested in the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, that you've lost track of what you're doing along the way.
You just proved that you're not even using the right downloaded image (or you already modified it and lost track of your mod) thereby making me the winner of the bet.
We like our steaks medium, with only a hint of pink, but cooked all the way through. No hang on a minute, instead of steak, let's make it <b>seafood at Scotts Seafood, Jack London Sq, Oakland. Their service is excellent and the cioppino is devine!</b>
www.scottsjls.com/
P.S. All of your other analysis has been rendered moot by this. I see no benefit in analyzing a negative.
For more proof, here is the grayscale map-projected from the same website:
hirise-pds.lpl.arizona.edu/PDS/EXTRAS/RD...1795_RED.abrowse.jpg
rd
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10 years 8 months ago #22276
by rderosa
Replied by rderosa on topic Reply from Richard DeRosa
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10 years 8 months ago #22212
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You just proved that you're not even using the right downloaded image (or you already modified it and lost track of your mod) thereby making me the winner of the bet.
We like our steaks medium, with only a hint of pink, but cooked all the way through. No hang on a minute, instead of steak, let's make it <b>seafood at Scotts Seafood, Jack London Sq, Oakland. Their service is excellent and the cioppino is devine!</b>
rd
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Well there is just one small problem Rich,
YOU ARE WRONG!
I downloaded this anaglyph last year from HiRISE as a .JP2 image and the image posted is what I received, that is of course you are suggesting that HiRISE had modified the anaglyph!
Look, I can see this whole business about you covering the check for a steak has gotten under your skin a little bit so let's do this; as we seem to have a disagreement here and the only one that can really confirm if in fact ESP_013772_1795 and ESP_022910_1795 were posted in their inverted mode is HiRISE themselves. So let's wait and see what they have to say and we should get their conclusion posted. This way we can evaluate <i>their</i> explination and not yours or mine. As you seem pretty chummy with those folks, who knows, you might have the upper hand.
This way, I'll let you off the hook about the steak until then so you won't go into a little tizzy - OK?
Larry is right, you have been spending way too much time on this and I do appreciate your effort and feel most honored that you have. So for now, why don't you take a respite and go work on your other debunking (or whatever it is that you do) and I will continue with the analysis of these anaglyph files. There is much more to evaluate here especially at close range.
And btw, it's not a .thing image it's a .png image. Just to correct your spelling.
Malcolm Scott
Replied by Marsevidence01 on topic Reply from Malcolm Scott
You just proved that you're not even using the right downloaded image (or you already modified it and lost track of your mod) thereby making me the winner of the bet.
We like our steaks medium, with only a hint of pink, but cooked all the way through. No hang on a minute, instead of steak, let's make it <b>seafood at Scotts Seafood, Jack London Sq, Oakland. Their service is excellent and the cioppino is devine!</b>
rd
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Well there is just one small problem Rich,
YOU ARE WRONG!
I downloaded this anaglyph last year from HiRISE as a .JP2 image and the image posted is what I received, that is of course you are suggesting that HiRISE had modified the anaglyph!
Look, I can see this whole business about you covering the check for a steak has gotten under your skin a little bit so let's do this; as we seem to have a disagreement here and the only one that can really confirm if in fact ESP_013772_1795 and ESP_022910_1795 were posted in their inverted mode is HiRISE themselves. So let's wait and see what they have to say and we should get their conclusion posted. This way we can evaluate <i>their</i> explination and not yours or mine. As you seem pretty chummy with those folks, who knows, you might have the upper hand.
This way, I'll let you off the hook about the steak until then so you won't go into a little tizzy - OK?
Larry is right, you have been spending way too much time on this and I do appreciate your effort and feel most honored that you have. So for now, why don't you take a respite and go work on your other debunking (or whatever it is that you do) and I will continue with the analysis of these anaglyph files. There is much more to evaluate here especially at close range.
And btw, it's not a .thing image it's a .png image. Just to correct your spelling.
Malcolm Scott
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10 years 8 months ago #22182
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Replied by Marsevidence01 on topic Reply from Malcolm Scott
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by rderosa</i>
<br />Here:
Analyze this!
This is the Upper Right Corner of 013772 with a minor histogram adjustment. This is what it really looks like (sort of like the surface of Mars)
rd
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Analyze this!
Yes I have and below is the corrected rendition. Now we can see that the shadow fields are in their correct orientation relevant to thee solar angle of 46 degrees.
No need to jump on this now Rich, but when you chat with HiRISE, you might want to discuss this with them and have them explain in post which we shall await.
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Malcolm Scott
<br />Here:
Analyze this!
This is the Upper Right Corner of 013772 with a minor histogram adjustment. This is what it really looks like (sort of like the surface of Mars)
rd
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Analyze this!
Yes I have and below is the corrected rendition. Now we can see that the shadow fields are in their correct orientation relevant to thee solar angle of 46 degrees.
No need to jump on this now Rich, but when you chat with HiRISE, you might want to discuss this with them and have them explain in post which we shall await.
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10 years 8 months ago #22560
by Larry Burford
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<b>[Malcolm] "So for now, why don't you take a respite and go work on your other debunking (or whatever it is that you do) ..."</b>
You are making comments about the poster, rather than what he posted.
Please stop.
You are making comments about the poster, rather than what he posted.
Please stop.
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