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15 years 4 months ago #22917
by Larry Burford
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An idea just occurred to me while I was looking at the picture labled Easter Island Man. If this is an artifact, it had to have been built after that crater happened.
If we assume this crater was part of the aftermath of the explosion of Body C, it implies that there were surviviors. Or that someone from somewhere else dropped by.
Both scenarios suggests that there was enough atmosphere to support this kind of extended effort. Shouldn't there be more erosion?
LB
If we assume this crater was part of the aftermath of the explosion of Body C, it implies that there were surviviors. Or that someone from somewhere else dropped by.
Both scenarios suggests that there was enough atmosphere to support this kind of extended effort. Shouldn't there be more erosion?
LB
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15 years 4 months ago #22893
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Larry Burford</i>
<br />An idea just occurred to me while I was looking at the picture labled Easter Island Man. If this is an artifact, it had to have been built after that crater happened.
If we assume this crater was part of the aftermath of the explosion of Body C, it implies that there were surviviors. Or that someone from somewhere else dropped by.
Both scenarios suggests that there was enough atmosphere to support this kind of extended effort. Shouldn't there be more erosion?
LB
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It's hard to say or speculate on who left the artifacts. It might be "all of the above." My best guess based on the evidence is that they were made after the cataclysm when there was already little or no weather erosion. [Neil]
<br />An idea just occurred to me while I was looking at the picture labled Easter Island Man. If this is an artifact, it had to have been built after that crater happened.
If we assume this crater was part of the aftermath of the explosion of Body C, it implies that there were surviviors. Or that someone from somewhere else dropped by.
Both scenarios suggests that there was enough atmosphere to support this kind of extended effort. Shouldn't there be more erosion?
LB
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It's hard to say or speculate on who left the artifacts. It might be "all of the above." My best guess based on the evidence is that they were made after the cataclysm when there was already little or no weather erosion. [Neil]
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15 years 4 months ago #22894
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That was kind of my point - little or no erosion suggests little or no atmosphere. It seems like a lot of work to do in a space suit.
I'm not saying it could not have happened. (If these poor people suffered as we do from the scourge of politicians, they would also have been forced to do things that were non-sensical. Especially in a crisis.)
But it does make it less likely.
LB
I'm not saying it could not have happened. (If these poor people suffered as we do from the scourge of politicians, they would also have been forced to do things that were non-sensical. Especially in a crisis.)
But it does make it less likely.
LB
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15 years 3 months ago #23611
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The next face is also at the base of the north wall of West Candor Chasma but around one degree longitude to the left (west) of the ESA image edge. It was re-imaged in CTX image numbers P05 002841 1744 and P07 003896 1743. Several other possible artificial objects are found in the same images, including the well known Wil Faust Mound, which is in the lower part of the context image shown below. Of course to see them you will have to download the original JP2 image and zoom in.
global-data.mars.asu.edu/bin/ctx.pl?res=...6W&day_night=2&rel=0
In the last two CTX close-ups below you can see the shadow variations from the two images taken at different times of day and also apparently from different incidence angles. [Neil]
ESA image
Context image
Approaching
MOC image with key
Data for MOC image E0600269, Curiosity: 2006; 76.83W, 5.24S, ~340 m wide, 5.73 m/p floor of West Candor Chasma
www.msss.com/moc_gallery/e01_e06/images/E06/E0600269.html
global-data.mars.asu.edu/bin/ctx.pl?res=...6W&day_night=2&rel=0
In the last two CTX close-ups below you can see the shadow variations from the two images taken at different times of day and also apparently from different incidence angles. [Neil]
ESA image
Context image
Approaching
MOC image with key
Data for MOC image E0600269, Curiosity: 2006; 76.83W, 5.24S, ~340 m wide, 5.73 m/p floor of West Candor Chasma
www.msss.com/moc_gallery/e01_e06/images/E06/E0600269.html
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15 years 3 months ago #23748
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Replied by neilderosa on topic Reply from Neil DeRosa
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Larry Burford</i>
<br />That was kind of my point - little or no erosion suggests little or no atmosphere. It seems like a lot of work to do in a space suit.
I'm not saying it could not have happened. (If these poor people suffered as we do from the scourge of politicians, they would also have been forced to do things that were non-sensical. Especially in a crisis.)
But it does make it less likely.
LB
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They may have done it from hovering spacecraft with lasers. The motive may have been boredom. The same reason retired people do art...or a hundred other possible reasons. []
<br />That was kind of my point - little or no erosion suggests little or no atmosphere. It seems like a lot of work to do in a space suit.
I'm not saying it could not have happened. (If these poor people suffered as we do from the scourge of politicians, they would also have been forced to do things that were non-sensical. Especially in a crisis.)
But it does make it less likely.
LB
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They may have done it from hovering spacecraft with lasers. The motive may have been boredom. The same reason retired people do art...or a hundred other possible reasons. []
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15 years 3 months ago #23614
by neilderosa
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Here is another face from the chasmas that I like, though others, even anomaly hunters, think it's pareidolia. There are several CTX images that show it in different lighting. Here are samples from four different images. In certain lighting we can't see the man's silhouette profile but in other lighting we can. In one, we can even see a circle where the man's eye should be. As always, there are no alterations in the images, except brightness and contrast, and colorizing. [Neil]
P06326317425
B02010515174
P060031971736
P11053861743
Data for MOC image M1301494, Lovers: 2006; 75.98W, 5.28S, ~2 km wide, 5.70 m/p, SO faces; silhouetted male excluded in Key, West Candor Chasma
www.msss.com/moc_gallery/e07_e12/images/E09/E0902252.html
I'm adding another crop of P060031971736
in lighter tones so you can see the man's eye better, unfortunately this brightens the girl's face a bit too much.
P06326317425
B02010515174
P060031971736
P11053861743
Data for MOC image M1301494, Lovers: 2006; 75.98W, 5.28S, ~2 km wide, 5.70 m/p, SO faces; silhouetted male excluded in Key, West Candor Chasma
www.msss.com/moc_gallery/e07_e12/images/E09/E0902252.html
I'm adding another crop of P060031971736
in lighter tones so you can see the man's eye better, unfortunately this brightens the girl's face a bit too much.
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