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10 years 9 months ago #22017
by rderosa
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Larry Burford</i>
<br /><b>[rderosa] "What kind of conclusions could you possibly draw?"</b>
What happens when you stand next to one of the Nazca Lines and look at it? Anyone know, first or second hand? (Please say which.)
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote"> From what I've read, and what I remember from Ancient Alien theory, nobody would suggest that the Nazca Lines were natural, and not man-made.
One line close up:
Perspective:
On close up inspection, they might look like tracks of some kind, highly unlikely to have happened naturally, but one look from the nearby mountains or the sky would leave no doubt that somebody drew them in the rocks, by either removing rocks or crushing (or changing them in some way like melting) them.
If you're asking what we would think if we were brought there blindfolded and just showed one square meter of one line what would we think, I'd have to say we couldn't be sure what to make of it (maybe). Only the broader context makes them undeniably man-made.
Either way these questions get right to the point I was making about Nefertiti. Close up I don't think it would be all that conclusive of anything. But back up some and you now see the whole "image". This is the whole dilemma. I remember discussing this with JP Levasseur a number of times through email, and if I remember correctly, his take on it was that because of the eons of cataclysms and erosion, in all probability we're going to have as many questions at the highest resolution as we did back in the early MOC images. With the hope that "boots on the ground" might still settle things.
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<br /><b>[rderosa] "What kind of conclusions could you possibly draw?"</b>
What happens when you stand next to one of the Nazca Lines and look at it? Anyone know, first or second hand? (Please say which.)
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote"> From what I've read, and what I remember from Ancient Alien theory, nobody would suggest that the Nazca Lines were natural, and not man-made.
One line close up:
Perspective:
On close up inspection, they might look like tracks of some kind, highly unlikely to have happened naturally, but one look from the nearby mountains or the sky would leave no doubt that somebody drew them in the rocks, by either removing rocks or crushing (or changing them in some way like melting) them.
If you're asking what we would think if we were brought there blindfolded and just showed one square meter of one line what would we think, I'd have to say we couldn't be sure what to make of it (maybe). Only the broader context makes them undeniably man-made.
Either way these questions get right to the point I was making about Nefertiti. Close up I don't think it would be all that conclusive of anything. But back up some and you now see the whole "image". This is the whole dilemma. I remember discussing this with JP Levasseur a number of times through email, and if I remember correctly, his take on it was that because of the eons of cataclysms and erosion, in all probability we're going to have as many questions at the highest resolution as we did back in the early MOC images. With the hope that "boots on the ground" might still settle things.
rd
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10 years 9 months ago #21855
by rderosa
Replied by rderosa on topic Reply from Richard DeRosa
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Larry Burford</i>
<br />I wonder how erosion here compares to erosion there?
LB
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">I've been asking about this too, and it seems like it's not widely known. Also there were catastrophic events, not the least of which tore off a huge chuck of the Martian surface leaving the north and south of the planet with a roughly 10 mile differential in elevation.
Predicting how something might change over 1000s, 100,000s, millions, etc., of years would be a daunting task. I don't know where to start on that one. Other than to see if I can find someone at the local college who might know something about it.
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<br />I wonder how erosion here compares to erosion there?
LB
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">I've been asking about this too, and it seems like it's not widely known. Also there were catastrophic events, not the least of which tore off a huge chuck of the Martian surface leaving the north and south of the planet with a roughly 10 mile differential in elevation.
Predicting how something might change over 1000s, 100,000s, millions, etc., of years would be a daunting task. I don't know where to start on that one. Other than to see if I can find someone at the local college who might know something about it.
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10 years 9 months ago #22018
by Larry Burford
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It was a partially rhetorical question. I have no doubt that many experts will have interesting opinions (learned, of course) about it. The thing about experts, however, is that they always disagree. Show me five experts, and I'll show you six expert opinions.
I really would like to hear them, though. Gold is where you find it.
Unfortunately, these and a few bucks will get you little more than a coffee in the corner shop.
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It is difficult to imagine a natural process that could have formed the Nazca Line.
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<b>[rderosa] "Close up I don't think it would be all that conclusive of anything. But back up some and you now see the whole "image". This is the whole dilemma."</b>
This is the thing that makes boots or tires on the ground so critical. You can move back and forth between up close and farther away to your hearts content.
I really would like to hear them, though. Gold is where you find it.
Unfortunately, these and a few bucks will get you little more than a coffee in the corner shop.
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It is difficult to imagine a natural process that could have formed the Nazca Line.
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<b>[rderosa] "Close up I don't think it would be all that conclusive of anything. But back up some and you now see the whole "image". This is the whole dilemma."</b>
This is the thing that makes boots or tires on the ground so critical. You can move back and forth between up close and farther away to your hearts content.
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10 years 9 months ago #21967
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Hello Rich, I was wondering if you received those anaglyph red/blue glasses?
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10 years 9 months ago #22195
by rderosa
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Marsevidence01</i>
<br />Hello Rich, I was wondering if you received those anaglyph red/blue glasses? Malcolm Scott
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Malcolm, no I got the "Shipped" notification, but not the delivery yet. Should be soon. It was an affiliate seller and they ship by The Pony Express. I'll probably have a question for you about what you were saying to look at when they come.
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<br />Hello Rich, I was wondering if you received those anaglyph red/blue glasses? Malcolm Scott
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Malcolm, no I got the "Shipped" notification, but not the delivery yet. Should be soon. It was an affiliate seller and they ship by The Pony Express. I'll probably have a question for you about what you were saying to look at when they come.
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10 years 9 months ago #21812
by Marsevidence01
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Larry, if you don't have any of these glasses, it might be a good idea to acquire a pair. There should be some very interesting discussions to be had, I will posting some new findings that will be earth shaking soon!
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