My pareidolia knows no bounds.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Marsevidence01</i>
<br />Rich, here's the link to the video.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Malcolm, I watched the video in 1080p HD. I was definitely locked in to 3D, and it's really amazing landscape, rich in contrast and topography changes. I have no real sense of what it is particularly that you are trying to show, though.

rd

Malcolm, in one scene, I took a screen capture (cntrl printscreen), saved it as a *bmp file and opened it in Paint Shop, and it worked very well. It was totally 3D. I guess that's obvious, but I wasn't sure until I did it. So if you wanted to crop little pieces to show what particular features are relevant, you could do that too.

Rich, good to know you can view and playback in 1080p. The topography of this section of the chasma is truly amazing. As I mentioned, I have been studying this particular file image (ESP_013772_1795) now for over 2 years and I must say, the image is rather unique among others (in Hebes) available from HiRISE.

If you haven't done so, you might want to download this file yourself as well as the anaglyph on the same page.

The video you watched was created using the anaglyph from HiRISE using Sony Vegas and what you see in this anaglyph is, for all intents and purposes is wrong!

This will develop into a huge discussion and has such massive implications, we may need to start a whole new topic. I am contemplating where to begin here as the subject has such deep focus, literately.

So getting the 3D glasses was a start and hopefully Larry can be convinced to get them also. I promise this WILL be the ride of a lifetime!

Malcolm Scott

Malcolm,

I hope I have convinced you that I have an open mind.

But you need to know that I really will not be convinced by a pretty picture. Unless it is a picture of a shovel.

***

This is similar to my expectation that God will have to come out of His closet. If She expects me to 'believe'.

BTW, you never did answer me when I asked if you know the difference between belief and faith.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Marsevidence01</i>
<br />If you haven't done so, you might want to download this file yourself as well as the anaglyph on the same page.

Malcolm Scott
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Malcolm, yes I am more than willing to download and look at any image you want, but I have to ask you to tell me what I'm looking for.

Look at it this way. We've essentially been looking at this stuff for 10 years or so (with breaks) and have debated it over and over in fifteen different ways. If I just look at something without knowing what and why I'm looking at, it quickly devolves into pareidolia-soup (modern) for me. I see faces the exact same way I see faces in the trees and shadows. So, if I see a face, my first inclination is always going to be: pareidolia.

Don't fall into the trap of speaking in riddles. Trinket used to post a lot of interesting stuff, but you could never get a straight answer from him. Everything he wrote was couched in mystery as if there was some great truth, but when we asked him what that great truth was, he either replied with another riddle or another mystery or a phrase that (I suspect) he thought made something obvious but never did.

If you have evidence of something by all means we want to see it. I know I certainly do. But you have to tell me, in very exact terms, what I'm looking at, and what you think the implications are. Just lay it on the line. Even if I don't agree with your interpretation you have every right to say: <b>This is what I think it is. This is what I think it means. </b> Otherwise, for me it's going to turn into:

Been there done that...rapidly.

rd

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Marsevidence01</i>
[br<b>]we may need to start a whole new topic</b>. I am contemplating where to begin here as the subject has such deep focus, literately.

Malcolm Scott
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Maybe that's a good idea. Start your own thread and lay out the story you want to tell. We can jump in as the case may present itself, but meanwhile you're laying out your narrative.

rd