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19 years 11 months ago #11787
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supplemental;
i forgot to add to the above that this then leads to the reality of Cold Fusion.
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i forgot to add to the above that this then leads to the reality of Cold Fusion.
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19 years 8 months ago #12343
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I thought this was interesting. Co-evolution of the Black Hole and the galaxies sounds alot like a model where vorticies collect and compress matter and energy.
www.space.com/scienceastronomy/blackhole_history_030128-1.html
www.space.com/scienceastronomy/blackhole_history_030128-1.html
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19 years 8 months ago #12351
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by rousejohnny</i>
<br />I thought this was interesting. Co-evolution of the Black Hole and the galaxies sounds alot like a model where vorticies collect and compress matter and energy.
www.space.com/scienceastronomy/blackhole_history_030128-1.html
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rousejohnny
what about the compression of the magnetic field in the first place.
for when i asked this question also to the Chandra people of the comprssion of the magnetic field this is the answer i recieved
"Is there a limit to this effect?Its a very good question, the answer, is that more compression leads to higher magnetic field strengh. Magnetic field lines are just a construct to visualize how the elecromagnetic force works, they are not real.And as far as i know, there is no upper limit to the strengh of the magnetic field."
what does this tell you?
<br />I thought this was interesting. Co-evolution of the Black Hole and the galaxies sounds alot like a model where vorticies collect and compress matter and energy.
www.space.com/scienceastronomy/blackhole_history_030128-1.html
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rousejohnny
what about the compression of the magnetic field in the first place.
for when i asked this question also to the Chandra people of the comprssion of the magnetic field this is the answer i recieved
"Is there a limit to this effect?Its a very good question, the answer, is that more compression leads to higher magnetic field strengh. Magnetic field lines are just a construct to visualize how the elecromagnetic force works, they are not real.And as far as i know, there is no upper limit to the strengh of the magnetic field."
what does this tell you?
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19 years 8 months ago #12353
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Meta</i>
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"i like it!! it reminds me of my theory of two nothings coming together,and when they do,this is the only way they become manifest.although i like the way you put it better!!"
"the only thing is,how do you get the elecromagnetism to start if you have a neutral begining "0" charge? how would ball start rolling so to speak?"
0 and one 0, my friend.
0 and 1
1=2
The Law of Conservation only appears to be violated if you believe 1=1
Unity = 2 Buckminster Fuller
Meta
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I am a huge fan of Bucky, he had a gentle spirit and was truely a pioneer with a great attitude about life and believed in a positive future for our planet. In reading through the posts and links I see a common thread in that most of us are not satisfied with the current BB theory as being a sound reality of how it all started. You look at electromagnetism and local relativity, and there are so many variables that create electric fields in our Universe and we really do not have a great grasp of how these plasmas are organized and what gravitational effects they may create such as high pressure expansion zones between Galaxies, or antigraviton production zones. We look at the Universe as if all of the viewplane is on the same earth game field and is isotropic. I totally think this in itself is a false hope and creates an artifact in our ability to reason forward enough to see beyond the box. Relativity may be more like an onion with layers and zones rather than a fixed speed limit of C.
Original Question: "What if the Universe is already contracting and actually never expanded?"
For the Universe to have existed in a state of forward contraction in time then some other force would have had to have interferred with the process to have created the orbital nature and vortical flows. You cannot have constant contraction unless this dimension is falling into a hole of lower frequencies and is totally unicellular with out divisional capabilities from reverse polarities. A higher dimension could be cascading into this dimension creating input and output sources such as suns and black holes which are all vortex machines if that is the case.
If there is a balanced Universe then zero exists at the center, then both a Dirac plus and negative material universe must also exist between the zero point. Universe could be cyclical downward movement from extreme frequencies to lower frequencies and like a rubber band once the energies have filled lower realms creates pressures that now go back the other way again. For the higher frequencies to survive then some vessel of containment must envelope the entire Universe to drive the energies back towards the original source. The only possible answer that could create such a containment would be a Dirac type scenario of both positive and negative Universe structures. There could be cellular division of energies that cascade as plasmas into lower dimensional frequencies that begin new Universes. We may be a new division of a recent addition, it could be an organic process that takes place almost like a life form where by a duality of reverse spinning disks form with a huge vortical centers that are self maintaining for an eternity.
If not then entropy and lower dimensions are in the cards.
John
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"i like it!! it reminds me of my theory of two nothings coming together,and when they do,this is the only way they become manifest.although i like the way you put it better!!"
"the only thing is,how do you get the elecromagnetism to start if you have a neutral begining "0" charge? how would ball start rolling so to speak?"
0 and one 0, my friend.
0 and 1
1=2
The Law of Conservation only appears to be violated if you believe 1=1
Unity = 2 Buckminster Fuller
Meta
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
I am a huge fan of Bucky, he had a gentle spirit and was truely a pioneer with a great attitude about life and believed in a positive future for our planet. In reading through the posts and links I see a common thread in that most of us are not satisfied with the current BB theory as being a sound reality of how it all started. You look at electromagnetism and local relativity, and there are so many variables that create electric fields in our Universe and we really do not have a great grasp of how these plasmas are organized and what gravitational effects they may create such as high pressure expansion zones between Galaxies, or antigraviton production zones. We look at the Universe as if all of the viewplane is on the same earth game field and is isotropic. I totally think this in itself is a false hope and creates an artifact in our ability to reason forward enough to see beyond the box. Relativity may be more like an onion with layers and zones rather than a fixed speed limit of C.
Original Question: "What if the Universe is already contracting and actually never expanded?"
For the Universe to have existed in a state of forward contraction in time then some other force would have had to have interferred with the process to have created the orbital nature and vortical flows. You cannot have constant contraction unless this dimension is falling into a hole of lower frequencies and is totally unicellular with out divisional capabilities from reverse polarities. A higher dimension could be cascading into this dimension creating input and output sources such as suns and black holes which are all vortex machines if that is the case.
If there is a balanced Universe then zero exists at the center, then both a Dirac plus and negative material universe must also exist between the zero point. Universe could be cyclical downward movement from extreme frequencies to lower frequencies and like a rubber band once the energies have filled lower realms creates pressures that now go back the other way again. For the higher frequencies to survive then some vessel of containment must envelope the entire Universe to drive the energies back towards the original source. The only possible answer that could create such a containment would be a Dirac type scenario of both positive and negative Universe structures. There could be cellular division of energies that cascade as plasmas into lower dimensional frequencies that begin new Universes. We may be a new division of a recent addition, it could be an organic process that takes place almost like a life form where by a duality of reverse spinning disks form with a huge vortical centers that are self maintaining for an eternity.
If not then entropy and lower dimensions are in the cards.
John
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19 years 6 months ago #13528
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More and more are waking up. Scientist are finally starting to get it now. It's about time.
www.nature.com/news/2005/050328/full/050328-8.html
www.nature.com/news/2005/050328/full/050328-8.html
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19 years 6 months ago #13267
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by rousejohnny</i>
<br />More and more are waking up. Scientist are finally starting to get it now. It's about time.
www.nature.com/news/2005/050328/full/050328-8.html
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rousejohnny
yes it was interesting. and it is about time. at the very least they are questioning so called set theories.
<br />More and more are waking up. Scientist are finally starting to get it now. It's about time.
www.nature.com/news/2005/050328/full/050328-8.html
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rousejohnny
yes it was interesting. and it is about time. at the very least they are questioning so called set theories.
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