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A nice little gravitational anomaly
22 years 2 months ago #2702
by Entropic
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What spokes? I don't see any in the picture. Do they really even exist?
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22 years 2 months ago #3038
by Youjaes
Replied by Youjaes on topic Reply from James Youlton
Pardon me for my absence, but anyway...
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I'm not making anything here. It IS easy and simple. The "gas" was used as an analogy only.
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I'm glad to see that you backed away from your analogy.
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Statistically, the ring appears exactly as a viscous medium for the rocks constituting it. There is internal friction from mechanical scattering and from the mutual gravitation of the rocks of the ring. So it locks in near perfect synchronicity. There's completely nothing anomalous here, niente, nada, zilch!
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Not so. The ring material is almost entirely hydrogen and helium, like the atmosphere of the planet, with some water ice that has conglomerated into moonlets of up to 5 to 9 kilometers in diameter. What we have here is a disk of mostly gas like material that is hundreds of kilometers in diameter, yet perhaps only 10 meters or less in thickness. In addition, we have the material of the rings orbiting the planet at what looks like exactly the same period as the rotation of the planet below. I see this as very anomalous. How can material be geosyncronous at varying altitudes? Why aren't the icy moonlets within the rings geosyncronous as well? And if it is so simple, why can't we do the same thing around the earth to facilitate an easy path to earth orbit?
James
Ok, who put "Uninflamable" signs on gasoline tanker trucks?
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I'm not making anything here. It IS easy and simple. The "gas" was used as an analogy only.
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I'm glad to see that you backed away from your analogy.
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Statistically, the ring appears exactly as a viscous medium for the rocks constituting it. There is internal friction from mechanical scattering and from the mutual gravitation of the rocks of the ring. So it locks in near perfect synchronicity. There's completely nothing anomalous here, niente, nada, zilch!
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Not so. The ring material is almost entirely hydrogen and helium, like the atmosphere of the planet, with some water ice that has conglomerated into moonlets of up to 5 to 9 kilometers in diameter. What we have here is a disk of mostly gas like material that is hundreds of kilometers in diameter, yet perhaps only 10 meters or less in thickness. In addition, we have the material of the rings orbiting the planet at what looks like exactly the same period as the rotation of the planet below. I see this as very anomalous. How can material be geosyncronous at varying altitudes? Why aren't the icy moonlets within the rings geosyncronous as well? And if it is so simple, why can't we do the same thing around the earth to facilitate an easy path to earth orbit?
James
Ok, who put "Uninflamable" signs on gasoline tanker trucks?
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22 years 2 months ago #2830
by Youjaes
Replied by Youjaes on topic Reply from James Youlton
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What spokes? I don't see any in the picture. Do they really even exist?
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The 'spokes' are what is referred to as the dark shadings in the upper left quadrant of the above photo. If you follow the second link in my original post, there is a video of the rotating planet and rings, with the dark shaded areas of the rings appearing to rotate with the planet.
Ok, who put "Uninflamable" signs on gasoline tanker trucks?
What spokes? I don't see any in the picture. Do they really even exist?
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The 'spokes' are what is referred to as the dark shadings in the upper left quadrant of the above photo. If you follow the second link in my original post, there is a video of the rotating planet and rings, with the dark shaded areas of the rings appearing to rotate with the planet.
Ok, who put "Uninflamable" signs on gasoline tanker trucks?
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22 years 2 months ago #2723
by jimiproton
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> Some spokes, those thought to be most recently formed, are narrow and have a radial alignment, and appear to corotate with Saturn's magnetic field in 10 hours, 39.4 minutes.
Youjaes
Perhaps a candidate for an alternative explaination lies in the original posting. Ring material likely contains particles which are magnetic, crystalline and (in with the hydrogen and helium) are big enough to produce light-scattering effects that are not omnidirectional. The spokes, and their mutations, may suggest an intersection of the magnetospheric belts of Saturn with ring material.
> Some spokes, those thought to be most recently formed, are narrow and have a radial alignment, and appear to corotate with Saturn's magnetic field in 10 hours, 39.4 minutes.
Youjaes
Perhaps a candidate for an alternative explaination lies in the original posting. Ring material likely contains particles which are magnetic, crystalline and (in with the hydrogen and helium) are big enough to produce light-scattering effects that are not omnidirectional. The spokes, and their mutations, may suggest an intersection of the magnetospheric belts of Saturn with ring material.
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