The entropy of systems

Hi GD,

Sounds like you do not think that gravitons exist. Here is a link to the experiment:

www.intalek.com/Index/Projects/Research/FlywheelCoupling.pdf

You and I have had this conversation before. You cannot calculate orbits using speed of light, so something is pushing mass around in orbits and that energy operates at speeds above that of light. Atom components are balanced in extreme rotations around matter and antimatter which is actually the model of how the universe works. Atoms are maintained in motion and constantly exchange energy with the graviton cycle. Otherwise they immediately disintegrate if out of balance with graviton cycle-EPH. Atoms are not solid they have components that move at extreme speeds much like the flywheel experiment, GD where is the motor for creating all of this extreme rotations up to 3 trillion times per second for mesons?

Regarding your question about solar systems moving away from center of galaxy and do they slow down in rotation as they move outwards in arm? Yes I would agree that solar systems slow down as they move away from center. The reason they slow down is because the collapsing graviton fields are strongest going into center then in outer regions. We have a vortex at the galactic center where a reverse wave of antigravitons are being generated inside the cores of the massive black holes with polar antimatter jets---gravitons have to go somewhere!!! So they reverse polarity and are shot out of the center of the Galaxy. We cannot see antigravitons but we can see the positrons and gamma ray annihilations.


If gravitons were to operate at speed of light we would see them, but we do not see gravitons nor will we see gravity waves. John

Hi GD, I think I'm going to have to go with the idea that there's a gravitational charge as well as an electromagnetic one. One is huge, the other tiny, multiplied together we get the charge value. I transposed the equation again, this time keeping half the mass of the proton constant, to see what happened to the permittivity times 4pi bit. The permittivity constant changes to billions of times smaller. Taking the cube root to see what that hidden radius is, I get 2.1886E-12 which is within a tenth of the Compton wavelength.

Still no idea what to make of that, other than it's interesting.

(Edited) note that I've still got a problem with that wayward nuber three in v = 4 pi r^3 / 3 it would be nice if I could figure out where the hell it's gone[] It makes that radius exactly a third less tahn the number I've given. It would put that radius in the doughnut hole of a toroidal proton but having a ghostly electron radius about a proton sounds very odd.

(Edited again) Just for fun I thought I'd try a mass of 100 solar masses. Halved it first then did the same as I did for the proton. The radius comes out at about 100 times h. Now the body wants to balance itself half and half, so half of its mass is in this tiny radius. This is before I've even considered the possibility of negative refractive index and all the wierd physics that that implies.

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Hello John,

In the previous post I mentioned: "Why are solar systems lined up in arms around the galaxy center as if moving to a specific point?"

I meant moving towards a point. Solar systems are moving towards the center of the galaxy.
Here is more to "phase space"(taken from -Oxford dictionary of science):

"Phase space.... as the system changes with time the representative points trace out a curve in phase space known as a trajectory. see also: attractor,...

Attractor: The set of points in phase space to which the representative point of a dissipative system (ie. one with internal friction) tends as the system evolves...."

-A dissipative system tends towards a point (the same as gravity).

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<br />Hi GD,

Regarding your question about solar systems moving away from center of galaxy and do they slow down in rotation as they move outwards in arm?
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Hello John,

In the previous post I mentioned: "Why are solar systems lined up in arms around the galaxy center as if moving to a specific point?"

I meant moving towards a point. Solar systems are moving towards the center of the galaxy.
Here is more to "phase space"(taken from -Oxford dictionary of science):

"Phase space.... as the system changes with time the representative points trace out a curve in phase space known as a trajectory. see also: attractor,...

Attractor: The set of points in phase space to which the representative point of a dissipative system (ie. one with internal friction) tends as the system evolves...."

-A dissipative system tends towards a point (the same as gravity).

I disagree. Center is moving too fast at 4.4 million miles per hour. Solar systems are moving away from center they trail in arms...in fact that is why there are arms. Notice usually arms are balanced. Note that gravitons move towards center while the secondary vortical structures formed at hot spots move away from center. John

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Hello John,

Galaxies are formed by a merging process. the shape of a galaxy is the result of an evolutionary process by which its mass (and energy state) varies with time.

Here is a simulation of how galaxies might have formed when the universe was very young:
www.plasma-universe.com/index.php/Galaxy_formation

Hello Stoat,

I have been reading about George Gamov. It says that his understanding of how the universe evolves through time became evident with his comprehension of how alpha particles were repelled (or let go) by the strong forces in the nucleus.

"He... invoked Quantum physics. This allowed him to treat each particle also as a wave...

...working with his assistant Ralph Alpher, Gamov found a way of describing the conditions that would lead to a universe containing the existing proportions of hydrogen and helium...

...his equations contained only fundamental parameters, such as Newton's gravitational constant, Plank's constant, the charge and entropy quanta, and the binding energy of deuteron (a form of hydrogen)... the equations dealt with 99% of the known matter in the universe...

Their calculations showed that as long as you set the temperature precisely it was quite possible to match the proportions of hydrogen and helium in the universe."

Fred Hoyle found how the 1% of complex elements were produced: through the evolution of stars.

I will try to find more on the relationship between temperature and entropy quanta and how this could possibly affect fundamental constants.