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16 years 8 months ago #20887
by Stoat
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Hi John, at the moment I'm still busy with measuring for carpets and working out how much paint I need. I did find another interesting thing about my estimate of the speed of gravity. I took a look at the fine structure constant. a = e^2 / barh c 4pi epsilon Putting in the value of 1.16464217444E 25 in place of c and the answer comes out as a fine structure constant that is very close to the electron charge.
(Edited) hmm... As I've got an equation that's e^2 / e then I think it would be fairly safe to alter my speed of gravity. The electron charge never alters, no matter what speed the particle is going. So that would give me a speed of gravity of 1.365448977E 25
(Edited again) Looking at E = mc^2 tehn replacing c with the speed of gravity, yet pegging the energy level, must mean taht the mass has to go down. This would give us a rest mass of a Compton photon of 2.46323916766E-28 eletron volts. Again that's in the ball park for the suggested figure.
(Edited) hmm... As I've got an equation that's e^2 / e then I think it would be fairly safe to alter my speed of gravity. The electron charge never alters, no matter what speed the particle is going. So that would give me a speed of gravity of 1.365448977E 25
(Edited again) Looking at E = mc^2 tehn replacing c with the speed of gravity, yet pegging the energy level, must mean taht the mass has to go down. This would give us a rest mass of a Compton photon of 2.46323916766E-28 eletron volts. Again that's in the ball park for the suggested figure.
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16 years 8 months ago #4162
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If we look at a photon flying through space,then it will pass about one proton a metre, so it will pass about 3E 8 protons in a second. A graviton will pass many many more. So let's multiply the reciprocal of how much faster the graviton is going, by the radius of a proton to give us an idea of the size of a particle making up a lattice structure of the vacuum. 2.57411645036E-17 times about 1E -15 = 2.57411645036E-32 metres. About 39 times bigger than h.
The picture shows their bec structure, which is just z = cos pi r
The top left image shows the basic shape, while the bottom right image shows a more tube like structure. Actually it would be much longer as a tube. Gravitons wouldn't see the tube, they would only see the tip of the spike. It's like they know where the stepping stones are.
(edited) If we say that these particles keep the same ratio as the average density of the light speed universe, then they would be about 1E -17 metres apart. That would give us 1E 45 of them per cubic centimeter.
If there is anything in this speed of gravity estimate,then we need to look at the "g factor" of particles, and we also need to look at Young's modulus for the vacuum. This thing is way way more rigid than steel. In fact steel is like Scotch mist by comparison.
The picture shows their bec structure, which is just z = cos pi r
The top left image shows the basic shape, while the bottom right image shows a more tube like structure. Actually it would be much longer as a tube. Gravitons wouldn't see the tube, they would only see the tip of the spike. It's like they know where the stepping stones are.
(edited) If we say that these particles keep the same ratio as the average density of the light speed universe, then they would be about 1E -17 metres apart. That would give us 1E 45 of them per cubic centimeter.
If there is anything in this speed of gravity estimate,then we need to look at the "g factor" of particles, and we also need to look at Young's modulus for the vacuum. This thing is way way more rigid than steel. In fact steel is like Scotch mist by comparison.
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16 years 8 months ago #13370
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Hi Stoat, Graviton exchange amplitudes and possible shock wave geometries from exiting antigravitons could form the basis for light generation by creating a disturbance in the elysium around the FTL particle. Light is just a shock wave.
So, with all of this FTL activity circulating through the atomic structure there must be some dampening effect keeping motion in place so that a fine structure is constant through out this process. Otherwise, proton meson rotations at three trillion x per second would blow apart the entire structure. Other clues as to light spectrum generation are found in matter/antimatter annihilations which in fact generate tremendous high energy light spectrum tubes of force. Are we really witnessing again FTL interactions and we are only seeing the trailing shock waves in the ELYSIUM???? This is a huge question...that totally changes every known notion of how Universe functions. A shock wave can control light...so, if this is evidence of the true nature of light that we really are not even seeing a particle because it is only a disturbance of a finer atmospheric then the only reason that light is constant through out system may be because of the larger scale FTL linear motion from flipping spin states ongoing within atoms that generate antigravitons. Good bye dark matter hello antigravitons!!!! (I just saw your post looks like some good graphics-will comment after I take a look) John
So, with all of this FTL activity circulating through the atomic structure there must be some dampening effect keeping motion in place so that a fine structure is constant through out this process. Otherwise, proton meson rotations at three trillion x per second would blow apart the entire structure. Other clues as to light spectrum generation are found in matter/antimatter annihilations which in fact generate tremendous high energy light spectrum tubes of force. Are we really witnessing again FTL interactions and we are only seeing the trailing shock waves in the ELYSIUM???? This is a huge question...that totally changes every known notion of how Universe functions. A shock wave can control light...so, if this is evidence of the true nature of light that we really are not even seeing a particle because it is only a disturbance of a finer atmospheric then the only reason that light is constant through out system may be because of the larger scale FTL linear motion from flipping spin states ongoing within atoms that generate antigravitons. Good bye dark matter hello antigravitons!!!! (I just saw your post looks like some good graphics-will comment after I take a look) John
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16 years 8 months ago #4181
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Hi John, at the moment with this stuff, I'm going through one of my reflective idiot moments, rather than my mouthy idiot ones.
Let's say that we have this lattice structure to the vacuum. Energy density wise they look like those cosine models. Electromagnetic mass looks exactly the same but bigger. How else do they differ? For the E.M matter the angular momentum of the edge of the tube is h, as is the angular momentum at the bottom of the tube, before it starts up that spike. At the top of the spike it has a much higher angular momentum.
For the gravitational mass units, of the vacuum lattice, it's the other way round. Their edge angular momentum is very high and the angular momentum of the spike top is h.
So, let's imagine a particle with a frequency of one. hf = mc^2 so its energy is h. divide by c^2 to get a a mass. That comes out as 7.37250327649E-51
Now let's put in my estimate of the speed of gravity, in place of the speed of light but we'll keep that mass. That will make h for the vacuum another number altogether. My speed of gravity squared equals 1.35639139448E 50 that happens to be the reciprocal of the mass, so the answer comes out at one.
The vacuum lattice unit would then have an edge angular momentum of 1 and a spike angular momentum of h. The E.M particle the same but switched about.
The two types of space are in balance. If we could hit the vacuum lattice with a big stick it would transmit "sound" at the speed of gravity, it's an incredibly dense material. However, only a tiny bit of that energy can leak into our electromagnetic space, through the spike of a particle.
This vacuum is obviously a plenum, and the greeks didn't like that idea, because they couldn't see how anything could move in that case. Things can move through a plenum but it has to be cyclic. What I think, is that an antigraviton is just a graviton that finds itself in space of negative refraction.
That's about as far as I've got with this, Not the slightest idea how matter moves through this diamond like substance, other than to say it does it by rotating very slowly.
Let's say that we have this lattice structure to the vacuum. Energy density wise they look like those cosine models. Electromagnetic mass looks exactly the same but bigger. How else do they differ? For the E.M matter the angular momentum of the edge of the tube is h, as is the angular momentum at the bottom of the tube, before it starts up that spike. At the top of the spike it has a much higher angular momentum.
For the gravitational mass units, of the vacuum lattice, it's the other way round. Their edge angular momentum is very high and the angular momentum of the spike top is h.
So, let's imagine a particle with a frequency of one. hf = mc^2 so its energy is h. divide by c^2 to get a a mass. That comes out as 7.37250327649E-51
Now let's put in my estimate of the speed of gravity, in place of the speed of light but we'll keep that mass. That will make h for the vacuum another number altogether. My speed of gravity squared equals 1.35639139448E 50 that happens to be the reciprocal of the mass, so the answer comes out at one.
The vacuum lattice unit would then have an edge angular momentum of 1 and a spike angular momentum of h. The E.M particle the same but switched about.
The two types of space are in balance. If we could hit the vacuum lattice with a big stick it would transmit "sound" at the speed of gravity, it's an incredibly dense material. However, only a tiny bit of that energy can leak into our electromagnetic space, through the spike of a particle.
This vacuum is obviously a plenum, and the greeks didn't like that idea, because they couldn't see how anything could move in that case. Things can move through a plenum but it has to be cyclic. What I think, is that an antigraviton is just a graviton that finds itself in space of negative refraction.
That's about as far as I've got with this, Not the slightest idea how matter moves through this diamond like substance, other than to say it does it by rotating very slowly.
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16 years 8 months ago #19865
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Hi Stoat, Excellent discussion, posts and graphics!!! What immediately comes to mind is a three phase system, where much like an alternating current polyphase motor we have mass equalling h, and currents equalling a +1 and a -1 and these three phases co-exist blinking in and out of phase which allows the BEC diamond tensor of positive time and negative time to co-exist without total annihilation!!!! Neutrinos can pass right through the Earth, I think we are looking at a similar process whereby the Graviton LIGHT GENERATION process is out of phase---we cannot see the FTL shock waves generated in our light speed "C" motion because it is out of phase blinking on and off with each node crossing and flipping taking place---negative Refraction---space looks black [cannot see graviton light tubes because gravitons travel so fast that mass regeneration is only in phase for a brief moment on exit of antigravitons]....we literally are in our own space!!!! This is hard to imagine but light tubes in this diamond lattice if you could strike with a large hammer would ring....vibrating light tubes in EMF looks like gravity waves!!! Of course these ripples are just light tubes of force being banged around.
So, the space tensor for mass is h. We can only see the exit negative refraction as a positive light source from the residual shock waves as tubes of force surrounding antigravitons as they leave matter, even though this positive flipped current is now way ahead of our time line. The actual crossing node is very small at your peak inside the tube and we really only experience a fraction of this enormous FTL current. It might be that the phase pulse is at such a high rate at node crossings, that the three phase of gravitons, mass regeneration in an amplitude exchange, and flipping into antigravitons is again more of a shock wave creating GLUON TUBES and all other force carriers blinking on at nodel point of actual flips!!! I am blown away at the architecture of the GRAVITON CYCLE in that it is a time based motion that is a conveyor belt as a + 1 phase space, the ANTIGRAVITON CYCLE operates as a mirror of forward time in reverse and completes its cycle in the - 1 phase space. So, in essence this diamond lattice you described is more solid then matter yet operates out of phase with mass regenerations that literally are blinking on and off at each node crossing at extremely high speeds. John
So, the space tensor for mass is h. We can only see the exit negative refraction as a positive light source from the residual shock waves as tubes of force surrounding antigravitons as they leave matter, even though this positive flipped current is now way ahead of our time line. The actual crossing node is very small at your peak inside the tube and we really only experience a fraction of this enormous FTL current. It might be that the phase pulse is at such a high rate at node crossings, that the three phase of gravitons, mass regeneration in an amplitude exchange, and flipping into antigravitons is again more of a shock wave creating GLUON TUBES and all other force carriers blinking on at nodel point of actual flips!!! I am blown away at the architecture of the GRAVITON CYCLE in that it is a time based motion that is a conveyor belt as a + 1 phase space, the ANTIGRAVITON CYCLE operates as a mirror of forward time in reverse and completes its cycle in the - 1 phase space. So, in essence this diamond lattice you described is more solid then matter yet operates out of phase with mass regenerations that literally are blinking on and off at each node crossing at extremely high speeds. John
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16 years 8 months ago #12191
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Hi John, I quite like this idea, it's aesthetically pleasing at any rate. Though I do recall Tom saying that one should never fall in love with one's theory. Or was that, never fall in love?
I've never liked the aether theories which want to pair particles to create the diamond like rigidity of the aether. This doesn't have that, it's one particle dividing its energy half and half. The paired particle idea is normally just to get rid of vacuum mass by some sort of slight of hand. The vacuum does have mass but the mass is just the tip of that spike. I did say somewhere that a photon does have a rest mass. I think I'll take a look at a, "what if that mass is close to the photon's rest mass." Might have possibilities.
At the moment I'm thinking of particles being diving bells. A proton say, would have to displace about four million of these tiny lattice particles. As they are so tiny and the gaps between them are so large; if we keep the relative density of ordinary space; that there's no problem with that. The little diving bells are not crushed because they have a core of equal pressure. An electron is the smallest mass that can withstand the pressure but I think a muon is something that the vacuum lattice is making and breaking all the time.
Odd things happen when the mass particle wants to move through the vacuum. Remember that this is a neg r.i material. Its wake precedes it!! Vacuum pressure drops in front of its motion path, and increases behind it. That would be its electromagnetic mass; its edge. The spike would want to stay where it is, it would seem to stray off centre by a tiny amount; this particle is moving very very slowly, even if it's going at near light speed. The particle would then be out of balance.
I've never liked the aether theories which want to pair particles to create the diamond like rigidity of the aether. This doesn't have that, it's one particle dividing its energy half and half. The paired particle idea is normally just to get rid of vacuum mass by some sort of slight of hand. The vacuum does have mass but the mass is just the tip of that spike. I did say somewhere that a photon does have a rest mass. I think I'll take a look at a, "what if that mass is close to the photon's rest mass." Might have possibilities.
At the moment I'm thinking of particles being diving bells. A proton say, would have to displace about four million of these tiny lattice particles. As they are so tiny and the gaps between them are so large; if we keep the relative density of ordinary space; that there's no problem with that. The little diving bells are not crushed because they have a core of equal pressure. An electron is the smallest mass that can withstand the pressure but I think a muon is something that the vacuum lattice is making and breaking all the time.
Odd things happen when the mass particle wants to move through the vacuum. Remember that this is a neg r.i material. Its wake precedes it!! Vacuum pressure drops in front of its motion path, and increases behind it. That would be its electromagnetic mass; its edge. The spike would want to stay where it is, it would seem to stray off centre by a tiny amount; this particle is moving very very slowly, even if it's going at near light speed. The particle would then be out of balance.
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