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12 years 11 months ago #13672 by Bart
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Another suggestion is to consider the occultations of stars by Jupiter.

Occultation of star 45 Cap by jupiter - from kfo48 Observatory

The relative positions of 45 Cap, Jupiter, Europe and Io (at the moment of first contact) look different from what I see from Stellarium.

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12 years 11 months ago #21357 by Joe Keller
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Jim</i>
<br />...ESA observatory in South America about an occultation of Jupiter in 2005? It might have been recorded by them...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Thanks for the heads-up! Over the years I haven't had much luck getting unpublished data, but this is recent, so the chance is better. I'll try it, if I can find the time!

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12 years 11 months ago #13673 by Larry Burford
Bart,

There are several problems with my last post, so it's easy to see why we are still not on the same page. One of these days I will (finally) learn not to fire off a post when I only have a few minutes available. The stuff I'm talking about is not even remotely settled science, and parts of it change from time to time based on conversations with others and my own internal speculations. And that means I should "take more time, not less" when writing about it.

I'll have a corrected post soon.

LB

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12 years 11 months ago #13674 by Bart
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Occultation of star 45 Cap by jupiter - from kfo48 Observatory


Upon further analysis using the exact moment of occultation:
Jupiter, Europa and IO look to be displaced 8 arcseconds relative to 45 Cap.
In other words: the calculated value for the planetary aberration is exceeding the observed value with 8 arcsec.

This could explain to the anomalies observed with the occulation of Jupiter by the Moon.

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12 years 11 months ago #13675 by Bart
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Occultation of star 45 Cap by jupiter - from kfo48 Observatory:
Using the light-time correction option of Stellarium, (on reported moment of full occultation) the distance beween Jupiter and 45 Cap remains 1 arcsec. The occultation occurs around 3 minutes earlier then anticipated by the Stellarium software.
In addition, IO and Europa are observed 2 to 3 arcseconds closer to Jupiter than anticipated (at the reported time of occulation).

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12 years 11 months ago #13676 by Bart
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Occultation of Jupiter by the Moon on 7 Dec 2004 9:14 UT:
spaceweather.com/occultations/07dec04/parker1_huge.jpg
Exact location in Florida specified.

Compared with Stellarium (including light-time correction):
31 seconds late at first entry, around 8 seconds short for last picture

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