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14 years 5 months ago #23930
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Hello again Joe Keller: With regard to my last request for a calender date on the Pioneer 10. Is the full data set for the doppler velocity measurements available anywhere on the web? Thank You.
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14 years 5 months ago #23931
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by johnboy</i>
<br />...calender date on the Pioneer 10. Is the full data set for the doppler velocity measurements available anywhere on the web? ...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
I'm not at home, but I recall that the chart I used, of the Pioneer 10 Doppler data, is from an article in Physical Review by JD Anderson et al, in the 1990s; the title of the article contains the word "anomalous". The arXiv.org preliminary version of the article is on the web. The article is referenced in my own article, Joseph C. Keller et al, Aircraft Engineering and Aerospace Technology, 2002.
This would be enough for a librarian with access to "Web of Science" (online Science Citation Index) to find it. Maybe you can find it with a search engine, too.
<br />...calender date on the Pioneer 10. Is the full data set for the doppler velocity measurements available anywhere on the web? ...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
I'm not at home, but I recall that the chart I used, of the Pioneer 10 Doppler data, is from an article in Physical Review by JD Anderson et al, in the 1990s; the title of the article contains the word "anomalous". The arXiv.org preliminary version of the article is on the web. The article is referenced in my own article, Joseph C. Keller et al, Aircraft Engineering and Aerospace Technology, 2002.
This would be enough for a librarian with access to "Web of Science" (online Science Citation Index) to find it. Maybe you can find it with a search engine, too.
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14 years 5 months ago #23907
by Joe Keller
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Stoat</i>
<br />...these hats are the classic witches' hat of children's stories.
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Good point! Pliny the Elder reported the ruins of great buildings on the Canary Is. Plato's "Critias" reported that Atlantis was beyond the Pillars of Hercules. The two eclipse tracks, according to my rough estimate, do intersect west of Gibraltar.
The earlier eclipse, 2806BC, has an even Saros number, hence is at the descending node; the later eclipse, 2407BC, has an odd Saros number, hence is at the ascending node. My rough estimate is:
The earlier eclipse, given by NASA as a Julian date, occurs near the spring equinox, assuming that the equinox was March 21 at 325AD. So, if the maximum eclipse was at noon, then Luna's track, with a descending node, is 24-5=19deg north of east, not accounting for Earth's rotation, but Earth's rotation is about half Luna's speed, so the track is double that, i.e. about 38 north of east. By the same reasoning, the track for the later eclipse, which happens a month and a half after the equinox, is 2/3*24+5=21 which doubles to 42, to account for Earth's rotation.
These lines then are almost parallel, so my solution is "poorly conditioned" and especially inaccurate. Anyway, for what it's worth, these lines would intersect near Brazil.
<br />...these hats are the classic witches' hat of children's stories.
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Good point! Pliny the Elder reported the ruins of great buildings on the Canary Is. Plato's "Critias" reported that Atlantis was beyond the Pillars of Hercules. The two eclipse tracks, according to my rough estimate, do intersect west of Gibraltar.
The earlier eclipse, 2806BC, has an even Saros number, hence is at the descending node; the later eclipse, 2407BC, has an odd Saros number, hence is at the ascending node. My rough estimate is:
The earlier eclipse, given by NASA as a Julian date, occurs near the spring equinox, assuming that the equinox was March 21 at 325AD. So, if the maximum eclipse was at noon, then Luna's track, with a descending node, is 24-5=19deg north of east, not accounting for Earth's rotation, but Earth's rotation is about half Luna's speed, so the track is double that, i.e. about 38 north of east. By the same reasoning, the track for the later eclipse, which happens a month and a half after the equinox, is 2/3*24+5=21 which doubles to 42, to account for Earth's rotation.
These lines then are almost parallel, so my solution is "poorly conditioned" and especially inaccurate. Anyway, for what it's worth, these lines would intersect near Brazil.
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14 years 5 months ago #23908
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I put up a couple of pictures of a stone circle with its flattening on a graphics web site. I think the winter solstice one is the most promising. I think its all to do with dawn an dusk shadows on certain key dates.
www.c4dcafe.com/ipb/index.php?/topic/520...earch__1#entry404572
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www.c4dcafe.com/ipb/index.php?/topic/520...earch__1#entry404572
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14 years 5 months ago #23932
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Joe: Thank You very much I found it.
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14 years 5 months ago #23933
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This year's Stonehenge crop circles decoded (Joseph C. Keller, May 18, 2010)
So far this season, there has been one crop circle at Stonehenge (May 9) and one at Old Sarum (May 5). See: "Crop Circle Archive" ( www.x-cosmos.it ). Both these encode the time interval between now, and Dec., 2012.
According the the "NASA Eclipse Website" ( www.eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov ), the next solar eclipse, total or partial, is the total eclipse July 11, 2010. There follow five partial solar eclipses (the last of the five is annular) and then the next total eclipse, Nov. 13, 2012.
Let's consider the Old Sarum crop circle. The three full concentric disks whose diameters are in the ratio 4::2::1, signify Earth, Luna's penumbra, and Luna. These full disks signify the imminent total eclipse of July this year. The otherwise identical, but half-hidden, disks signify the next total eclipse to come, Nov. 2012. The six lines through (i.e. behind or after) the full disks, signify the next six eclipses, the sixth of which adjoins the half-hidden disks, signifying that the sixth eclipse to come afterwards, is that signified by the half-hidden disks. The seven simple dark disks in a row, signify the seven eclipses between now and Dec. 2012.
Now let's consider the Stonehenge crop circle. The big central disk is the Sun; the two groups of three simple disks represent Mercury, Venus, & Earth. The big circle around the Sun (through the groups of three disks) is Earth's orbit. As at Old Sarum, the groups of three concentric disks, represent the next two total eclipses. The seven arcs emerging from each "eclipse", represent the seven eclipses (total and partial) between now and Dec. 2012.
So far this season, there has been one crop circle at Stonehenge (May 9) and one at Old Sarum (May 5). See: "Crop Circle Archive" ( www.x-cosmos.it ). Both these encode the time interval between now, and Dec., 2012.
According the the "NASA Eclipse Website" ( www.eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov ), the next solar eclipse, total or partial, is the total eclipse July 11, 2010. There follow five partial solar eclipses (the last of the five is annular) and then the next total eclipse, Nov. 13, 2012.
Let's consider the Old Sarum crop circle. The three full concentric disks whose diameters are in the ratio 4::2::1, signify Earth, Luna's penumbra, and Luna. These full disks signify the imminent total eclipse of July this year. The otherwise identical, but half-hidden, disks signify the next total eclipse to come, Nov. 2012. The six lines through (i.e. behind or after) the full disks, signify the next six eclipses, the sixth of which adjoins the half-hidden disks, signifying that the sixth eclipse to come afterwards, is that signified by the half-hidden disks. The seven simple dark disks in a row, signify the seven eclipses between now and Dec. 2012.
Now let's consider the Stonehenge crop circle. The big central disk is the Sun; the two groups of three simple disks represent Mercury, Venus, & Earth. The big circle around the Sun (through the groups of three disks) is Earth's orbit. As at Old Sarum, the groups of three concentric disks, represent the next two total eclipses. The seven arcs emerging from each "eclipse", represent the seven eclipses (total and partial) between now and Dec. 2012.
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